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Sim Update 11 beta with DLSS 3 arriving 17th October

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25 minutes ago, marcg11 said:

Me too....plus my current rig in no way could support a 4000 series card (It feels like I would need my own power station to support it)....pretty much means a whole new rig for me.   Its been in the cards but my 5 year old PC is running MSFS really well (shocking to think about it) that I am torn on getting a new one....

If I was going to go the 4000 series route I would wait another month and get the 16gb 4080 vs the 4090. I was interested in whether my current system could handle it power wise and the specs says I would need the same power wattage as does my current 6800XT, a 750w power supply. I have an 850 now so that shouldn't be an issue. The new cards don't need more that a 16x PCI-E slot do they? 

Ryzen 7 5800 x3D, Asus Tuf Gaming X570 Plus, Geforce GTX 4080 F.E., 32GB Corsair PC-3600, 1TB Samsung Evo 970 nVME SSD, 1TB Samsung Evo 870 SSD, 500GB Samsung Evo 870 SSD

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Still very happy with TAA and DX11 compared to DLSS and DX12 after SU10. Very smooth experience

Cheers, Ed

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I don't understand all this. My monitor has a refresh rate of 70 Hz. Ie 70 fps because the screen is redrawing 70 times a second.  So even if I have graphics card giving me a reported 126 fps I'm only still actually seeing 70 fps. In other words anything more than a reported  70 fps are just wasted frames. Am I missing something here?

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54 minutes ago, Mikeingreen said:

If I was going to go the 4000 series route I would wait another month and get the 16gb 4080 vs the 4090. I was interested in whether my current system could handle it power wise and the specs says I would need the same power wattage as does my current 6800XT, a 750w power supply. I have an 850 now so that shouldn't be an issue. The new cards don't need more that a 16x PCI-E slot do they? 

The thing you need to worry about is not the power capacity but the size of your case.

Guillaume

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28 minutes ago, guibru said:

The thing you need to worry about is not the power capacity but the size of your case.

You might be right, the 4080 is 2.5 in longer than my 6800XT

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54 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I don't understand all this. My monitor has a refresh rate of 70 Hz. Ie 70 fps because the screen is redrawing 70 times a second.  So even if I have graphics card giving me a reported 126 fps I'm only still actually seeing 70 fps. In other words anything more than a reported  70 fps are just wasted frames. Am I missing something here?

New high end monitors are sold with 240Hz or higher. 
the fps discussion will continue until hell freezes over so we might just stop it here 🙂

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1 hour ago, Mikeingreen said:

If I was going to go the 4000 series route I would wait another month and get the 16gb 4080 vs the 4090

Agree. Nvidia's own benchmark graph with MS2020 showed minimal difference between these cards.

23 minutes ago, espent said:

New high end monitors are sold with 240Hz or higher. 
the fps discussion will continue until hell freezes over so we might just stop it here

But could DLSS3 be useful if you use 60hz and half the refresh rate? I find that blocking at 30 can be more comfortable for the GPU but there is a latency...

2 hours ago, Mikeingreen said:

The new cards don't need more that a 16x PCI-E slot do they? 

correct, look Ma! only 1 PCI-E slot plus 3 additional brackets width extending into the 4th slot. Excellent! 😀

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

It will easily heat the room that it is in. (for a nominal fee).

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3 hours ago, jimcarrel said:

It will easily heat the room that it is in.

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

39 minutes ago, turbomax said:

nope.

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I don’t remember thermodynamics class, but if you use 500watts it will generate 500watts worth of heat. The fact that the cooling on the die is better just means that the heat is transferred quicker to your case/room. 

// 5800X3D // RTX 3090 // 64GB RAM // HP REVERB G2 //

I wonder how many people have a decent cpu and 4090 In time for 17 oct. My system won’t be released until oct 20 (13900k release date). 

4 hours ago, Mikeingreen said:

If I was going to go the 4000 series route I would wait another month and get the 16gb 4080 vs the 4090. I was interested in whether my current system could handle it power wise and the specs says I would need the same power wattage as does my current 6800XT, a 750w power supply. I have an 850 now so that shouldn't be an issue. The new cards don't need more that a 16x PCI-E slot do they? 

Honestly, I am kind of concerned about the actual wall electrical receptacle.  At 120V, these cards can peak around 8 amps, plus 2A for the PC system puts your pc setup around 10 amps.  If you have a 15 amp breaker like I do, and it is 10 years old, they will generally trip at around 85% load.  So that gives me about 13-14 amps real load (not peak or startup).  If I have 10 for system and you add in the other receptacles on that circuit, you may be in a crunch.  Watch out for other desk lamps, second monitors, ect.  Something to consider at least.  That is unless you have a 4000 amp main panel and disco with a uprated 2000 amp dedicated single recept. circuit - then you will be fine. 😉

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33 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I wonder how many people have a decent cpu and 4090 In time for 17 oct. My system won’t be released until oct 20 (13900k release date). 

I think 12th gen Intel or AMD 5800X3D should be fine. 

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