Pretty surprised that there has been zero chatter about it here since it release several days ago.  Maybe folks are finally doing a little research before they buy instead of impulse-buying a pretty model and fancy marketing speak. 🙂  

No doubt the external model is very beautiful (that has never been an issue with CS), and they actually created a pretty nice looking cockpit model from what I see in the marketing pics...but this is a CS product for MSFS...so you should know what that means concerning systems and such (you'll be flying a default 747-8 system-wise).

In a new twist, they are offering livery packs for it.  Not a bad price (aprox $1 per livery...you gotta' buy in packs of 5).  As you can imagine, when asked about a paintkit by livery artists, they say that one is not available.  When a painter mentioned on their forum that you can just use the P3D paintkit and tweak a little, they promptly removed the P3d paintkit from their website.🤔 

The hilarious thing is that painters always find a way....despite a dev's attempt to restrict their efforts.  There are a few repaints already showing on flightsim.to, and I've grabbed the popcorn to see what CS will try to do this time.  The last time CS threatened flightsim.to with a lawsuit didn't work out so good for them. 
I respect EULAs, and CS technically has some ground to stand on IF you use the P3D paintkit you may have already had in the past on the MSFS version....but proving that would be sketchy.  And since they have not specifically rolled out a EULA for the MSFS version of the 767-300 in regards to painting, what they don't say is not arguable in court (not that I think they'd ever get a case to court).  They have not specifically said you can't paint the MSFS 767-300 and put it out there for free, so until they do, any action they try to take will be laughed at by flightsim.to.

TBH, I hope CS has learned their lesson about trying to restrict painters from offering free paints to the community...and if CS were not charging for them, like in the past, they should let it slide as the negative publicity will surely be detrimental to sales.  However, they are now attempting to sell liveries... and of course nobody who's aware of flightsim.to would give them a dime for liveries when they can get them for free.  Unless of course CS tries to take the free liveries off flightsim.to...again...that will be the next saga to watch.

I'm looking to see who's gotten it...and how they are liking it.  We'll see over the next few days how the livery subject pans out, but wondering who here as purchased it and their experience.  I want to give CS the benefit of the doubt that this release won't be the train wreck their previous MSFS have been...at lease it has a cockpit that looks like a 767-300 cockpit. 🙂  Can't really say that about their last release.

I know that any CS thread has the potential for heading quickly off the rails, but let's see if we can stay civil and keep it open for a bit and see if the 767-300 has any merit to the community.  

Nice post and good read but I personally will never buy a CS product no matter how far they might come. I don’t think they will ever reach the levels of payware quality. And to charge for liveries?? That’s nuts. But will still hang around this thread to see if anyone has bought it, and what entertainment might be provided by reading their reviews 🙂

 

You'll surely have someone chiming in in no time here saying that a livery takes quite some time and 1$ per livery is an excellent price in regards to the amount of time it took to create it. MSFS has made devs pushing the limits in regards to ripping off customers, no doubt. I wonder when we will see early-access-liveries for 5$ ("Fully features already 2 of the 5 colors of the livery, the other 3 will come in the future, see our roadmap...").

5 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

You'll surely have someone chiming in in no time here saying that a livery takes quite some time and 1$ per livery is an excellent price in regards to the amount of time it took to create it. MSFS has made devs pushing the limits in regards to ripping off customers, no doubt. I wonder when we will see early-access-liveries for 5$ ("Fully features already 2 of the 5 colors of the livery, the other 3 will come in the future, see our roadmap...").

They do take quite a long time.  But there is a difference in making a livery for a quality addon where other people can enjoy it (and where the devs support livery creation) vs Captainsim prohibiting or making it very difficult for designers to make their own liveries.  

I've haven't bought a CS product since the C130 for FSX... and I won't be buying this one.  I think most people know to avoid them.

 

I wish they would contract someone who could code the systems etc…as noted the modelling looks quite good and is wasted.  Failing that, I’d love to have a 763 in the sim but not for what they’re charging.  I might buy it for $10 (including liveries).  Maybe.

On paying for liveries…if a third party wants to create a payware livery pack and people are willing to buy it then that’s great for all involved.  What I don’t think is ok is a developer charging for liveries for their own payware plane, that should be part of the cost of the aircraft…this has long been the norm.

Edited February 5, 20233 yr by regis9

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Has anyone picked up the CS 767-300 yet?

I've had a few knocks on the head over the years but as far as I know I'm not brain damaged. Although, many would take a contrary view, I'm sure.

Edited February 5, 20233 yr by Jazz

I'll get it once ANA and JAL repaints are made.  Mike V has done Delta and Condor that look pretty nice KiKiwi68 has done United on flightsim.to.   The price is ok at 30 dollars.  The cockpit looks right. 

It looks like they are making a money grab ahead of the freeware 767-300 being released.

I actually fly the CS777s on intra Japan and and intra US flights fairly often with the masterrob94/salty mod on flightsim.to.  Does everything I need it to do.

The Kuroin 787-8 w/heavy division is getting better every few weeks.

2 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

 As you can imagine, when asked about a paintkit by livery artists, they say that one is not available.  When a painter mentioned on their forum that you can just use the P3D paintkit and tweak a little, they promptly removed the P3d paintkit from their website.🤔 

This is what I do not understand about CS.  If I had an airplane out, I would want everyone under the sun to be painting it.  A paintkit or available paintjobs are a form of marketing.  For example, I personally may not be interested in this airplane, but if it had 500 repaints of every 767 there ever has been and then some...I might be slightly more inclined to purchase said airplane. I like me some Fedex cargo runs.  Or the Gimli Glider.

But CS actively fights against people painting their stuff.  I guess it's because they want to charge for liveries.  But is $1 or $5 really going to pay off in the end, vs. a freely available paintkit and all of the paintjobs (read: publicity) that would result?

People are already hard at work painting it => https://flightsim.to/c/liveries/captainsim-boeing-767-300er/

As for the aircraft, they didn't even bother to use the (actually pretty good) systems from their P3Dv4 model, they just used the default 747-8 as they did with their "777". As a result, we have another awesome exterior with painful systems and lazy interior (the cockpit doesn't match the exterior in quality with this one). Fuel management is a joke, you can load it with 191 tons of fuel!!!

It's a frankenstein and another "avoid like the plague" Captain Sim thing. Shame because it does look gorgeous outside and it's a 767.

Edited February 5, 20233 yr by Nuno Pinto

Captain Sim only won by default in FSX.

Without any other B-52, C130, 707 nor 727 addons to choose from back then, they made decent addons of such planes for us who needed just some sort of fix.

They should go back to “very rare no one else is going to make” money grab addons at this point.🤣

Edited February 5, 20233 yr by blueshark747

I knew it would not be long before CS started deleting posts on their forum when folks...especially when freeware painters, started asking:

1. Why is there is no paintkit for it?
2. Why did you remove the P3d version of the paintkit as soon as someone mentioned that you can use the P3d kit as it works fine for the MSFS version?

 They deleted my post when I informed them that despite their efforts to suppress freeware painters, some are still finding a way to create liveries.  Looks like we're heading into the same, sad situation they got themselves into when they tried to force all freeware painters to upload their paints to CS's site only, and threatened flightsim.to with legal action if they didn't remove them.

Its pretty clear what they are trying to do, and it's not going to end well.

4 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

I want to give CS the benefit of the doubt that this release won't be the train wreck their previous MSFS have been

Looks like the benefit of the doubt I gave them only last about 4 hours, LOL.   Not that I'm surprised it would happen...If CS isn't anything...its consistent on its ability to create good looking exterior shells, and excellent reasons to dislike them.🤣

Yeah it's great even has an EFB!

1 hour ago, Nuno Pinto said:

they didn't even bother to use the (actually pretty good) systems from their P3Dv4 model

That would involve them doing some work 😄, as compared to just aliasing the 747s avionics.

1 hour ago, Steve Dra said:

I knew it would not be long before CS started deleting posts on their forum when folks...especially when freeware painters, started asking:

1. Why is there is no paintkit for it?
2. Why did you remove the P3d version of the paintkit as soon as someone mentioned that you can use the P3d kit as it works fine for the MSFS version?

 They deleted my post when I informed them that despite their efforts to suppress freeware painters, some are still finding a way to create liveries.  Looks like we're heading into the same, sad situation they got themselves into when they tried to force all freeware painters to upload their paints to CS's site only, and threatened flightsim.to with legal action if they didn't remove them.

Its pretty clear what they are trying to do, and it's not going to end well.

Looks like the benefit of the doubt I gave them only last about 4 hours, LOL.   Not that I'm surprised it would happen...If CS isn't anything...its consistent on its ability to create good looking exterior shells, and excellent reasons to dislike them.🤣

Incredible that CS still don’t understand that free liveries actually help them sell their products 🤦‍♂️.