23 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Reminder that people using VR headsets which utilize Windows Mixed Reality should NOT update.  That's me with my HP Reverb G2.

I'm glad my Primax Crystal Light will be here Friday (I ordered it back in June)...😶The clock is now ticking for the HP Reverb G2 and Microsoft will shadow install this on Windows 11 without your knowledge.  You could block updates under Windows 10 but not so much with Windows 11 (especially updates like this).

The demand is so high for the Crystal Light that it's taking three months to get your order. This is going to be interesting when this update is official.

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Dillon

9 hours ago, Sethos said:

looking like there's an average of 10-11% performance gain for Ryzen users.

at 1080p resolution that is. 😀

I expect 0% increase at 4K or in VR.

1 hour ago, Dillon said:

I'm glad my Primax Crystal Light will be here Friday (I ordered it back in June)...😶The clock is now ticking for the HP Reverb G2 and Microsoft will shadow install this on Windows 11 without your Knowlege.  You could block in under Windows 10 but not so with Windows 11.

The demand is so high for the Crystal Light that it's taking three months to get your order. This is going to be interesting with this update is official.

I hope you'll post about your findings in the VR forum.  I'm really curious!

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

at 1080p resolution that is. 😀

I expect 0% increase at 4K or in VR.

That's true but you always test CPU at lower resolutions, to show the actual CPU gains. At higher resolutions and in VR, you'd most likely be GPU bound, then increased CPU speeds won't do much. But they show a 15% performance increase in MSFS, so in more CPU bound scenarios, you'll definitely see it. I ain't complaining about free performance 👍

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Sethos

55 minutes ago, Sethos said:

But they show a 15% performance increase in MSFS

if I add up all those 15% performance increases over the last 4 years someone promised for this or that, I'd be at 150% by now. I don't expect anything noticeable at 4K or in VR.

4 minutes ago, turbomax said:

if I add up all those 15% performance increases over the last 4 years someone promised for this or that, I'd be at 150% by now. I don't expect anything noticeable at 4K or in VR.

Well, you're bound to be disappointed when you don't understand how the performance increases work or that CPU gains won't help you in GPU bottlenecked scenarios.

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Sethos

4 minutes ago, Sethos said:

that CPU gains won't help you in GPU bottlenecked scenarios.

thats exactly what I said: 15% CPU increase usually boils down to 0% fps increase at 4K or in VR. and that's what I am using exclusively, otherwise an RTX 4090 would be a waste.

14 minutes ago, turbomax said:

thats exactly what I said: 15% CPU increase usually boils down to 0% fps increase at 4K or in VR. and that's what I am using exclusively, otherwise an RTX 4090 would be a waste.

Yeah, you said it 3 times now in your bid to get attention and I'm still failing to understand why you are quoting me or having to tell me / us this? It's a conversation about a CPU performance increase, not a flat universal performance increase to MSFS. No you won't benefit in a GPU bound scenario, obviously.

14 hours ago, Rimshot said:

The internet.

Generally, a very poor answer for statement "sources".

When Windows 12 launches, Bob will confidently state that there is nothing wrong with Windows 11 and everyone he knows says that Windows 12 is terrible.

Some people just like to live that way.

3 hours ago, turbomax said:

if I add up all those 15% performance increases over the last 4 years someone promised for this or that, I'd be at 150% by now. I don't expect anything noticeable at 4K or in VR.

If we got all the promised performance increases from a windows update, GPU driver update, MSFS Sim Update then yeah we'd be running 90fps in VR with settings on full whack and 1000 TLOD 😄 what a world that would be!

3 hours ago, MarcG said:

If we got all the promised performance increases from a windows update, GPU driver update, MSFS Sim Update then yeah we'd be running 90fps in VR with settings on full whack and 1000 TLOD 😄 what a world that would be!

Unless they get rid of those land bars, correct the slow loading DEM data in certain locations, and replace those low resolution terrain textures around French naval shipyards.....it will still be flawed

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Christopher Low

17 hours ago, Maxis said:

After seeing the frame rate increases with the new build of Windows 11 i think i can jump ship once its released. I will probably seek to set up and install the stripped out (of Bloatware) version though. That was why i stuck with windows 10. It was easier to strip unnecessary stuff out. Will have to do the research in the mean time to prepare for the upgrade.

Just finished upgrading my PC. I was on Win 11 before but this time I installed a de-bloated version of Win 11.
You can create the Win 11 install USB as normal using the "media creation tool" on the Microsoft website.
Then create a file called "autounattend.xml" and simply copy that to the USB.

This website makes it easy to create the xml file:-

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

More info here:-

https://youtu.be/VapEEf4k7Eo?si=Vy0F0x_RazyVGlmi

 

Although installing from scratch is always recommended, pushing an in-place Windows 10-11 upgrade to endpoints has been almost painless for the MSP I work for. A Windows 7/8 to 10  upgrade was rarely attempted.

There is hardly any difference to performance or the user experience (some ask how to move the Start button back to the left corner.)

Windows 10 is end-of-life October '25 so you can hang on until then.

 

It’ll certainly be interesting to see what sort of benefits (if any) this update will bring. I’m simming at 4K and never GPU-limited. Not sure if it’s correct to say that I’m CPU-limited either, as total CPU usage is around 30-40%. I’m definitely mainthread-limited though.

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett