1 hour ago, AnkH said:

Always amazed that people spending thousands of dollars for computer hardware to fly a sim then really think about saving some 60 bucks by buying a standard edition only instead of the full blown stuff 😉 

everyone should stick by their personal assessment of value - i.e. 20 dollars for a coffee is miniscule compared to a full motion sim, but is it fair value?

The Pacific Northwest actually looks like the Pacific Northwest now, with the correct trees in MSFS 2024 🤣:

 

16 minutes ago, EGLD said:

everyone should stick by their personal assessment of value - i.e. 20 dollars for a coffee is miniscule compared to a full motion sim, but is it fair value?

i like to use the $1 rule for things like this...  If I get more than $1 in value out of it per day then it is a good return on investment.  

So if I use the Aviator  Collectors edition 260 times that boils down to $1/use.  For me personally that is a great ROI.   That is also discounting a 1:500 model of the AN225 is probably $70 alone.  

I just don't like the pre-order is Aerosoft only... 

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by psolk

12 minutes ago, EGLD said:

no deal, these moronic "content creators" are insufferable, and always get first dibs in our modern two tier gaming world

You’re are very very wrong.

I will have to check all this out in detail later. Unfortunately that won’t be until tonight when I am home from work. 
 

I really wanna see what they have done with weather and atmospheric conditions. Looked like one video I previewed on my phone had hazing in the distance and I noticed more prominent looking rain squalls.

Other than flight physics I think weather and atmospheric conditions to be the most import part of a sim in the sky. 😀

Wow I love this 

https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/s/aH8zM5d2vV

I was worried that it would be DX12 only, and that seems to have been confirmed. MSFS 2020 runs amazingly well in DX11 mode on my PC, but I suspect that MSFS 2024 will struggle

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

With that money saved I can buy myself 2  addons 😊

You could even have many more, by "renting" them. I have to say, the new feature is very intriguing. And it came as quite a surprise.

2 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I was worried that it would be DX12 only, and that seems to have been confirmed. MSFS 2020 runs amazingly well in DX11 mode on my PC, but I suspect that MSFS 2024 will struggle

Why don't you try DX12 on your computer now with MSFS 2020?

Also, if you are that worried, you can always get Gamepass for a month to try out MSFS 2024.  Then quit Gamepass after one month. That's the cheapest way to test MSFS 2024. Depending on where you live, Gamepass can be very cheap for your first month, if you have never used Gamepass before (just remember to unsubscribe so they don't charge you for the second month).

MSFS 2020 is already the most advanced flight simulator overall, especially for graphics. I have to say, MSFS 2024 makes the graphics in MSFS 2020 look dated. The ground is so detailed in MSFS 2024. At least for the Grand Canyon, the Grand Canyon in MSFS 2024 looks 3x better than MSFS 2020.

22 minutes ago, psolk said:

i like to use the $1 rule for things like this...  If I get more than $1 in value out of it per day then it is a good return on investment.  

So if I use the Aviator  Collectors edition 260 times that boils down to $1/use.  For me personally that is a great ROI.   That is also discounting a 1:500 model of the AN225 is probably $70 alone.  

I just don't like the pre-order is Aerosoft only... 

I do something similar with just about every game I play. I take the total number of hours I played and divide that by the cost of the game. A lot I’ve been playing a cent an hour. That’s value!

 

We won’t talk about the ones I haven’t played enough to warrant that deal however. 😜

1 hour ago, Ron Attwood said:

Has anyone managed to pre order it from outside the U.S? i.e. UK? I got as far as filling in my address but the only areas available were U.S. states.

I was able to submit my pre-order (directly on the XBox Store) here in Canada without issue. 

29 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

You’re are very very wrong.

about what?

18 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

You could even have many more, by "renting" them. I have to say, the new feature is very intriguing. And it came as quite a surprise.

Love this idea. And the free limited trial. My goodness the money I would have saved if this was already available! 

So.. overall i think this is definitely worth the upgrade but a few more items need to be fleshed out. Things major positives for me are

24 hour historical weather - This is all i ever needed (selfishly speaking)

Looks like we have a few more cloud types and effects modeled. Ash clouds appear fixed

Sim flight dynamics have been revamped.

Flight planner included (Not sure if im ready to ditch simbrief/navigraph as yet though)

Walk around mode looks pretty decent. On the flip side it looks like some third party devs have some work to do to avoid their models looking like ugly ducklings

Graphical details have been massively improved -  Awesome for VFR flyers

 

Things i would like more information on - ATC with proper vectoring and spacing , Network performance and support, AI aircraft at Airports... are we still in the FSTL/AIG era ?, AI support at airports (Are people/cars still walking into AC ?)

I assume that over time more information will get released but definitely pre purchasing my copy today