6 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

Me encanta esta idea y la prueba gratuita limitada. ¡Dios mío, cuánto dinero me habría ahorrado si esto ya hubiera estado disponible! 

That has happened to me for trusting the comments and reviewsbem Youtube and forums like this .... I do not know how many times I have read here "very similar to A2A" spend the money and then see what these addon fly like a drunken duck nothing to do with the geniuses of A2A 

45 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Wow I love this 

https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/s/aH8zM5d2vV

It was a bit choppy on another video I saw showing this

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by Drumcode

31 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I was worried that it would be DX12 only, and that seems to have been confirmed. MSFS 2020 runs amazingly well in DX11 mode on my PC, but I suspect that MSFS 2024 will struggle

I mean it's time for a new box, man. You've been around this hobby for long enough 🙂

5 minutes ago, Maxis said:

Things i would like more information on - ATC with proper vectoring and spacing

LOL, you can forget about it. I didn't hear a peep from anyone about improvements to ATC and Microsobo would be gloating about it if they implemented anything that is significantly improved or groundbreaking. 

3 minutes ago, Drumcode said:

LOL, you can forget about it. I didn't hear a peep from anyone about improvements to ATC and Microsobo would be gloating about it if they implemented anything that is significantly improved or groundbreaking. 

An improvement in the right direction is enough for me. Not asking for revolution in this aspect.. I just want to know what the updates are considering nothing has been said yet. Would be unfortunate if they haven't touched it any at all.

59 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Good to know.
New computer components will be going on my Christmas wishlist.

'Ideal spec' is actually the base spec if running a complex airliner, into detailed scenery, with some AI traffic, and wanting to keep TLOD at 200.

2 hours ago, Pochi said:

The real question is : Are PAPI aligned with Glideslope/ glidepath ?

Pierre

In real life they're not always aligned.

My main man Squirrel joined the preview.

This looks astonishing.  
 

 

2 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

In real life they're not always aligned.

Exactly! 

50 minutes ago, psolk said:

So if I use the Aviator  Collectors edition 260 times that boils down to $1/use.  For me personally that is a great ROI.   That is also discounting a 1:500 model of the AN225 is probably $70 alone.  

Being a pedantic analyst (which I am) and these exercises are fun anyway, there are a few ways to look at the maths on these. For this, I am kinda separating out the big collectors edition with the physical goods, but the math still kinda comes out the same. As an aside, those physicals items have a value outside of a time used metric, and can be resold.

None of this, to get it out of the way early is a criticism on how people spend their money. So. those of you splashing for the expensive versions I truly hope you get enjoyment from them by whatever metric you use.

The basic way, which you've done, is to take the total cost of the thing, divide it by a denominator (hours, times used, whatever) and come up with a "dollars per x"..

Now, in this case each of the editions includes the digital items from the previous pack. The base pack is $70, and the Aviators is $200. Taking a dollars/hour metric if you fly the sim 200 hours, you have $1 hour. Which is fantastic. But, to get the true $1/hour you would need to exclusively fly just the things in the Aviators pack. So, you'd fly something like the Junkers 200 times. If you just fly the new MAX, that extra cost brings the ROI down.

Lastly, the Aviators pack does have a sort of investment on future actions if you will. One may regret buying it because they never take advantage of the extra stuff, but the person who buys it will never go "crud. They actually updated those Famous Flyers, now I wish I got the Aviators version. Or, you may be uncertain if you'd like the Junkers, but what the heck you own it, let's take it for a spin.

Calculating ROI on entertainment items is fun. My wife only watches Netflix and pretty much every day. Seriously by any metric she is coming out to like $.000000000002/whatever. 

I however, do fall into this trap with things like my World of Warcraft sub, or my Say Intentions sub. I try to say "if I use this, so it's like $1/hour, it's worth it" I've had to broaden any metrics I see this and instead look at more of a rolling average. 

We are all whales in our way.

 

I am pretty excited.  I always liked the career mode in truck simulator and I look forward to that in MSFS 2024.  I am also excited at the variety and difficulty grades of the missions.  Objective based gameplay I always enjoyed for variety.  The huge amount of planes is also very exciting and the air traffic.  There is so much being added.  I do share the concern on the ATC or lack of ATC mention which is a shame I do like using the basic ATC just for a slightly more immersive experience I am not looking for a full blown VATSIM thing really but the MSFS ATC was pretty bad at times to the point even as a completely casual user I ran into issues.

But overall I am pretty excited.

Cpt Canada is getting smooth performance in the Max

 

48 minutes ago, EGLD said:

about what?

Everything in that post.

2 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

Being a pedantic analyst (which I am) and these exercises are fun anyway, there are a few ways to look at the maths on these. For this, I am kinda separating out the big collectors edition with the physical goods, but the math still kinda comes out the same. As an aside, those physicals items have a value outside of a time used metric, and can be resold.

None of this, to get it out of the way early is a criticism on how people spend their money. So. those of you splashing for the expensive versions I truly hope you get enjoyment from them by whatever metric you use.

The basic way, which you've done, is to take the total cost of the thing, divide it by a denominator (hours, times used, whatever) and come up with a "dollars per x"..

Now, in this case each of the editions includes the digital items from the previous pack. The base pack is $70, and the Aviators is $200. Taking a dollars/hour metric if you fly the sim 200 hours, you have $1 hour. Which is fantastic. But, to get the true $1/hour you would need to exclusively fly just the things in the Aviators pack. So, you'd fly something like the Junkers 200 times. If you just fly the new MAX, that extra cost brings the ROI down.

Lastly, the Aviators pack does have a sort of investment on future actions if you will. One may regret buying it because they never take advantage of the extra stuff, but the person who buys it will never go "crud. They actually updated those Famous Flyers, now I wish I got the Aviators version. Or, you may be uncertain if you'd like the Junkers, but what the heck you own it, let's take it for a spin.

Calculating ROI on entertainment items is fun. My wife only watches Netflix and pretty much every day. Seriously by any metric she is coming out to like $.000000000002/whatever. 

I however, do fall into this trap with things like my World of Warcraft sub, or my Say Intentions sub. I try to say "if I use this, so it's like $1/hour, it's worth it" I've had to broaden any metrics I see this and instead look at more of a rolling average. 

We are all whales in our way.

 

Yeah I'm wondering if buying the collectors/aviator's edition will secure something down the road.  Like half way through 2022 (or maybe 2023), MS announced that 2020 Premium users get 33% off any Asobo marketplace product.  So that was really nice!  I didn't buy that many but it was still a nice gesture to fan's who did commit to the higher end version.

And, people like me who purchased 2020 Premium, started with not-so-premium addons, that became superb down the road.  (Cirrus, Longitude, B787 etc).

Additionally, I see the base product as barely a drop in the bucket, compared to what I've spent over the last 4 years on Hardware AND Software.  I've been a simmer for over 3 decades, a beta tester for over 2, I love tinkering with sim, and I'd enjoy supporting the developers (even "big bad" Microsoft).

4 minutes ago, pjs37 said:

I I do share the concern on the ATC or lack of ATC mention which is a shame I do like using the basic ATC just for a slightly more immersive experience I am not looking for a full blown VATSIM thing really but the MSFS ATC was pretty bad at times to the point even as a completely casual user I ran into issues.

But overall I am pretty excited.

Have you looked into BeyondATC?  It's only $30 USD.

And if you have the extra cash to spare, you can also look into SayIntentions.AI.

There are some pretty good alternatives to MSFS ATC now.