3 minutes ago, turbomax said:

as long as you are satisfied with 334 fps

 

Nah, no large format 480Hz monitors yet 😉  

considering we had over 500 fps at 2 ms frametimes already in fs2020 on a lousy RTX 4090:

552fps does not mean all that much on the menu screen. If you have that kind of framerate in the simulator, then you need to increase the level of detail. If you are already at the maximum possible level of detail with a framerate like that, then you wasted your money on that GPU

4 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Well I sort of was. Are you referring to the upgraded Live Air and Sea traffic?😂

No, I was referring to the list previously posted by @lwt1971             revamped ground handling physics and ground<->air transition that goes hand in hand with the much more detailed terrain modelling, best I've experienced in any sim

- flight dynamics improvements, and it shows clearly in the default aircraft as well as 2024 versions of 3rd party aircraft

- revamped photometric lighting engine, atmospheric and cloud lighting 

- clouds improvements and new types.. weather is definitely improved IMO as is the atmospheric airflow modelling, turbulence and interactions with flight dynamics, etc

- sophisticated flight planner

- overall twin earth visual fidelity 

- 3D trees, biomes, seasons

- much better multi-threading and use of CPU resources

- default A330, C172, Citation Longitude, Xcub, etc 

15 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

No, I was referring to the list previously posted by @lwt1971             revamped ground handling physics and ground<->air transition that goes hand in hand with the much more detailed terrain modelling, best I've experienced in any sim

- flight dynamics improvements, and it shows clearly in the default aircraft as well as 2024 versions of 3rd party aircraft

- revamped photometric lighting engine, atmospheric and cloud lighting 

- clouds improvements and new types.. weather is definitely improved IMO as is the atmospheric airflow modelling, turbulence and interactions with flight dynamics, etc

- sophisticated flight planner

- overall twin earth visual fidelity 

- 3D trees, biomes, seasons

- much better multi-threading and use of CPU resources

- default A330, C172, Citation Longitude, Xcub, etc 

I agree with regard to the trees and performance. I still prefer Simbrief for my flight planning. Clouds maybe a bit better. It's a job to say. Edit: To be fair the trees and especially the winter trees are leaps and bounds better.

Edited January 7, 20251 yr by jarmstro

1 hour ago, jarmstro said:

I agree with regard to the trees and performance. I still prefer Simbrief for my flight planning. Clouds maybe a bit better. It's a job to say. Edit: To be fair the trees and especially the winter trees are leaps and bounds better.

I agree, I find it very hard to believe that any flight planner designed by Asobo, will be any where as good as Simbrief. 

12 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I agree, I find it very hard to believe that any flight planner designed by Asobo, will be any where as good as Simbrief. 

I'm pretty sure Working Title made the flight planner, not Asobo.

I’m loving the new ground detail, lighting is better also.

Improved ground handling also.

the rest is either same or worse than 2020 imo.

 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I agree, I find it very hard to believe that any flight planner designed by Asobo, will be any where as good as Simbrief. 

SImbrief is included on MSFS Flight Planner

5 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

552fps does not mean all that much on the menu screen. If you have that kind of framerate in the simulator, then you need to increase the level of detail. If you are already at the maximum possible level of detail with a framerate like that, then you wasted your money on that GPU

I enjoy staring at 552 fps in a MSFS main menu. totally smooth. no stuttering.

imagine this with new NVidia DLSS 4 and multi frame generation will double and triple my fps in the main menu to at least 1.000 fps.

"then you wasted your money on that GPU "

now that you mention it: my TV monitor does only 60 Hz.🤣

16 minutes ago, Seth2021 said:

SImbrief is included on MSFS Flight Planner

 

2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I agree, I find it very hard to believe that any flight planner designed by Asobo, will be any where as good as Simbrief. 

For us primarily GA flyers, the new EFB is a lot more useful and better than Simbrief. 

14 hours ago, Sethos said:

They got a lot of things right but my top one is absolutely the improvements to the feel of flight. Also the main reason why I could never go back to 2020 under any circumstance. Planes finally have some inertia, planes feel more alive than before. 

 

Couldn't agree more. For this alone, and the ground physics revamp I'd have paid the price of entry for 2024. It was the only disadvantage (if any) MSFS 2020 had before 2024 came along, and now no longer. This coupled with all the other advancements is making it harder and harder for me to fire up 2020 on those occasions I want to fly aircraft not compatible/native to 2024 yet.. especially when 2024 looks *and* flies as good as it does.

8 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

 

Couldn't agree more. For this alone, and the ground physics revamp I'd have paid the price of entry for 2024. It was the only disadvantage (if any) MSFS 2020 had before 2024 came along, and now no longer. This coupled with all the other advancements is making it harder and harder for me to fire up 2020 on those occasions I want to fly aircraft not compatible/native to 2024 yet.. especially when 2024 looks *and* flies as good as it does.

Hello, Flight dynamics improvements to realism are about the only area that would tempt me in to getting 2024 but its hard to judge when people just say its better with no real backing.

Could you explain the areas you see it being more aligned with the real aircraft you fly including what those aircraft are?

Thanks.

1 hour ago, Rusty Spanner said:

Hello, Flight dynamics improvements to realism are about the only area that would tempt me in to getting 2024 but its hard to judge when people just say its better with no real backing.

 

I don't fly IRL, hence I asked for opinions on 2024 re: flight dynamics and ground handling in this thread and got a lot of responses.. note especially the various IRL pilots who chimed in:

 

Certainly seems to be a consensus that 2024 advances the ball in these areas. Some of the IRL pilots wrote detailed reviews examining various aspects of flight dynamics and ground handling in that thread.

Edited January 8, 20251 yr by lwt1971