May 13, 20251 yr Moderator I’m sure this will bring a smile to many of you. Some UK waypoint names are to be changed as they’re deemed offensive. Wouldn’t want that would we? 🤣 A free article in today’s British Telegraph… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/151aee79fd888f14 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
May 13, 20251 yr 49 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I’m sure this will bring a smile to many of you. Some UK waypoint names are to be changed as they’re deemed offensive. Wouldn’t want that would we? 🤣 A free article in today’s British Telegraph… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/151aee79fd888f14 Is "PIKEY" a bad word in UK English? Over here in the U.S. that's a fairly common last name and definitely not a bad word. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
May 13, 20251 yr 31 minutes ago, Mace said: Is "PIKEY" a bad word in UK English? Apparently. I always thought it was a description of a slightly dodgy wheeler-dealer who might try to sell you a car. You'd later find out you were in possession of a vehicle held together by several hundred yards of welding rod. I was never aware there was any racial connotation. Mind you, I'm a thick-skinned, sixty two year old and well on my way to becoming a dinosaur, so all this 'I cherish my right to be offended' stuff tends to go over my head...
May 14, 20251 yr They had one for PIKEY 🤣 Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
May 14, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I’m sure this will bring a smile to many of you. Some UK waypoint names are to be changed as they’re deemed offensive. Wouldn’t want that would we? 🤣 A free article in today’s British Telegraph… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/151aee79fd888f14 Oh! Shock, horror! I must go and lie down at just the thought of those names. Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.
May 14, 20251 yr Author Moderator 8 hours ago, Mace said: Is "PIKEY" a bad word in UK English? Over here in the U.S. that's a fairly common last name and definitely not a bad word. It’s not a word I use. It’s probably associated with gypsies / travellers - who have a poor reputation for illegally parking their caravans on land and having been ordered to vacate generally leave a disgusting mess. I think it reflects more on the sensitivities of the generation now becoming AT Controllers. Sadly Pete Pitman - a British ATC advisor for Radar Contact - is no longer a member here on AvSim. It would be interesting to hear his thoughts. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
May 14, 20251 yr I was a UK air traffic controller for over 30 years. I remember when the majority of these 5 letter waypoints were introduced and in all the time since then, I never heard a single objection to them. I’m afraid it’s a snowflake generation thing.
May 14, 20251 yr Author Moderator 16 minutes ago, kfd said: I was a UK air traffic controller for over 30 years. I remember when the majority of these 5 letter waypoints were introduced and in all the time since then, I never heard a single objection to them. I’m afraid it’s a snowflake generation thing. Agreed. Pete Pitman told me they could occasionally create names back in his time. They took great pleasure of coming up with amusing but relevant idents. Not easy when you’re restricted to just five letters that have to be pronounceable and easily understood. I always thought UPGAS was the best. The accel point for BA Concorde for the flights departing LHR for the other side of the pond. It still exists but now in the North Sea instead south of Cardiff. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
May 14, 20251 yr 9 hours ago, Mace said: Is "PIKEY" a bad word in UK English? listed as offensive in both Cambridge and Oxford dictionaries. it is considered a racial slur. EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress MSFS24 | X-Plane 12
May 14, 20251 yr It's a funny display of how language and its semantics are re-interpreted by each generation.
May 14, 20251 yr Author Moderator 8 minutes ago, Ilari Kousa said: It's a funny display of how language and its semantics are re-interpreted by each generation. I’m not sure what’s worse. The sensitivities of the younger generation or the authorities in caving in. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
May 14, 20251 yr Author Moderator PIKEY has been in existence for over 8 years according to this site. https://www.euroga.org/forums/hangar-talk/8398-funny-waypoint-and-navaid-names I wonder if KOK VOR in Belgium is next to go! 🤣 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
May 14, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said: PIKEY has been in existence for over 8 years according to this site. https://www.euroga.org/forums/hangar-talk/8398-funny-waypoint-and-navaid-names I wonder if KOK VOR in Belgium is next to go! 🤣 Indeed! Not forgetting the next VOR on airway M150 after KOK, is DIK (Diekirch), has to go, surely!😂
May 14, 20251 yr For a native Portuguese these are perfectly normal waypoints 😁 but a German bizjet I once saw with "D-CONA" was hilarious 🤣 Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 14, 20251 yr I wonder what these people would do if they encountered words which are actually offensive. Heart attack?
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