August 6, 201312 yr Just a thought, but would putting extra PAX in as cargo weight affect the loading times on the turn feature unrealistically? Would it be possible to just have a PAX weight and Cargo Weight set of entry's, with a guide to standard PAX weights for various classes. User's could then add up the values on their own calculator and add the weight equivalent of any config they wish in the cabin. It could be advanced mode or something, and then have what's there now as the standard way of entry for those of us who cant be bothered manually adding up weights for various configurations. It is hard to get everyone to read carefully. And my previous comments seem to have gone completely unseen. In the NGX the weights can be added directly: 1. Entering ZFW figure directly in the RSK2. (Kilo pounds or Tonnes). The payload is then auto distributed. 2. Entering desired weights directly into the LSKs for passenger weights and cargo. The 777 cannot be different. I use TOPCAT to get my payload and ZFW figures. How difficult is that? Ahmed Abdessalam "That which means you can't, doesn't mean you ain't. And that which means you ain't, doesn't mean you can't" -Ahmed Abdessalam
August 6, 201312 yr Commercial Member It is hard to get everyone to read carefully. Welcome to my world... The 777 cannot be different. Correct - you can still directly enter ZFW. Kyle Rodgers
August 6, 201312 yr Dear PMDG, is it possible to change the seating capacity up to 270 passengers? Or maybe you can add three configs: One with 301 (can call it single class config), 270 (Two class config) and 234 (three class config) seats? Would like to see this as well. I am sure for PMDG this cannot be to difficult to implement with their knowledge. Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Eric
August 6, 201312 yr Author Would like to see this as well. I am sure for PMDG this cannot be to difficult to implement with their knowledge. Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 2 I hope so!!! Would love to see a statement of PMDG to this ;-)... Greetings from Germany, Maurice Kroll
August 7, 201312 yr Sounds like 777-200ER. The PMDG one is the 777-200LR thus It is a lot, it is correct, and it is with GE90-110Bs. The ER has 90ish kilopounds. Geee, I have been following these threads the whole time thinking PMDG did the 777ER (with which I am familiar). Must have been a case of wanting to read/hear what the mind wants to read/here, haha. Thx! Rob Robson
August 7, 201312 yr Ok seeing that my chocking thread my have had an affect, let try this... I would like to see the -LR with the Boeing recomended 301pax as per web site. Now here is the change: unlike the NGX, which gave a fixed single class capacity and an option for dual class, I would like there to be more options for the 777. I know it is not possible to model all the airlines pax configs, but the ngx had an interesting feature that linked the airline preference for systems, satcoms, autopilot types, etc to the registration of the plane. Could it be possible to do the same for the 777 by adding a line for the seating arrangements? This way would allow users to have whatever they choose by given them a "blank slate" if you will.
August 7, 201312 yr I hope this is something PMDG will look into. Really like to choose my pax. conf. William Coade
August 7, 201312 yr This way would allow users to have whatever they choose by given them a "blank slate" if you will. But we have a blank slate already. With this and the NGX. The aircraft can only hold a certain weight, and we can choose anything between that weight and zero to load on to the plane.
August 7, 201312 yr IBTL... It's probably too late. Nothing new till release. Maybe a service pack Flying Tigers Group
August 7, 201312 yr But we have a blank slate already. With this and the NGX. The aircraft can only hold a certain weight, and we can choose anything between that weight and zero to load on to the plane. The 737-800 max capacity in single class is 186, the ngx gave us 174. It would be more authentic to add the correct pax per airline rather than adding equivalent weights to make up for the shortage. Also the random pax function would be useless unless the ngx recognizes the pax limit for the current airline.
August 7, 201312 yr 3 page thread on this already. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/415238-question-for-the-beta%C2%B4s-how-much-passengers-can-the-pmdg-777lr-carry/ You can manually enter a ZFW based on any config you wish if you want. It will be distributed through the cabin and cargo holds. Weight is Weight and the plane will behave the same.
August 7, 201312 yr The 737-800 max capacity in single class is 186, the ngx gave us 174. 189 FWIW. 186 is typical maximum with bigger (fullsize?) front galley installed. Removes 1DEF seats. Anyway I don't understand the outcry either. --Peter Fabian
August 7, 201312 yr The plane is not even out and people are debating over the number of passengers set... :facepalm: As Kyle says, weight is weight, be it people or bricks. As long as it is distributed correctly, the plane flies exactly the same... You'll be wanting specific options for each and every airline, with exact seating arrangements/numbers and so on next... In the NGX, I just set the max number of passengers, what ever it is (not that I really care about it, it is just the weight I am interested in), filling the plane to capacity for weights and balance... I seldomly have the center tank more than half-full, so I am hardly ever TORA-limited... Can't wait until it releases. I am envious of the beta guys and girls... A Andrew Entwistle
August 7, 201312 yr Author Okay Gentleman, i really now that the PMDG 777 is the best addon ever made for FSX. The only wish i have is to get more passenger capacity, so i don´t have to load some "fake passengers" into the cargo deck. I know: Weight is weight! But if i want 301 passengers, i could only load 234 passengers. So i have to load the weight of the 67 passengers i need to get the 301 capacity into the cargo deck. Thats a weight of 10050 LBS (67*150LBS). Ok, i can deal with this! But i think it would be better or faster if i just could set the needed passenger capacity. I really don´t want that people get angry with me. Maybe the most people don´t understand me but the only thing i would love to see is the possibility to add about 301 passengers (or maybe just 290) into the airplane. :-( Greetings from Germany, Maurice Kroll
August 7, 201312 yr As Kyle says, weight is weight, be it people or bricks. As long as it is distributed correctly, the plane flies exactly the same... You're right of that. But then PMDG could have made a 5/10/20 (35 pax) config. and we can add more weight so it is like 290. Why we get one of the largest airplanes if it almost has the seat capacity of a fully loaded 737-900ER which are max. 215 pax? 172 economy passengers are way too less. I only hope the -300ER gets more seats than 290 :unsure: - René Mosek - Future Owner Of: 'The PMDG 747-400 V3' B)
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