I'm very stubborn sometimes

 

Must agree with you this time  :lol:

 

But i realy like our exchange of opinions in CTD forums

Interesting....  I never needed the uiautomationcore fix in Windows 7 64-bit but FSX almost immediately CTDed, pointing to this .DLL when I upgraded to Windows 8 64-bit.  So, I put the so-called "correct" version in the FSX root folder and I have not noticed any problems.  I wonder where the incompatibility report originates?

 

Rick

I got it from reading some posts on the Internet and from NickN.  It's cool if it works okay for you.  Just be aware there have been reports of incompatibilities.

 

Best regards,

Jim

Jim,

 

Hold on a second here:

 

The file that we recommend and have linked in the 777 manual is the same one I have personally tested and used with customers for many many years with positive results. If I remove that file from my FSX folder, I can crash the sim within a minute by repeatedly bringing up the right click menu over and over. Within about 25-30 right clicks, it freezes and crashes. With the file we link in the folder, the crash never happens.

 

That type of thing is all I've ever known the file to solve - the problem builds up over time as a user flies along because every time they use the menus that adds to the accumulated total. It could be 5 hours into the flight and suddenly they get a crash or white-screen freeze thing for no apparent reason and it's due to this. The file is not some cure-all for all problems as far as I've ever seen.

 

Not all "freezes" in the sim are the same. This issue with the 777 is starting to take on a bogeyman-type character where people are blaming everything under the sun for it. The issue we're looking at is a very specific thing where the whole sim freezes for several minutes but then resumes as if nothing happened. That's not what happens with the UIAutomationCore.dll crash in my years of experience supporting our customers. The version of the file linked in the manual is the same one that's solved the actual crash problem for countless people over the years.

Jim,

 

I am going to pounce on you for being "Fuzzy" with something that I think is EXTREMELY important be clear:

 

PMDG does not install this dll, (or any other dll that was not created by PMDG or one of our development partners specifically for use in one of our products) onto a user's system.

 

It would be bloody irresponsible to do so, and frankly any developer who is replacing this dll on user systems without their knowledge should be flogged publicly for something just a whisker shy of sheer stupidity.

 

There are a number of system tweaks and config modifications that we KNOW increase the stability of user systems, but we would never take it upon ourselves to conduct them on the user's machine.  We STRONGLY RECOMMEND that people do certain things- but to take it upon ourselves to do them on the user's behalf would simply be wrong, and it isn't a behavior PMDG is known for.

 

In the future, I would appreciate you being very, very clear on this topic. 

You can look at info about different versions and the files they use and the one program that the OS likely uses "uribbon.dll" here:

 

http://www.faultwire.com/file_report/uiautomationcore.dll.html

 

Found good info about the version that Nick and PMDG uses here - 32 bit http://www.faultwire.com/file_detail/uiautomationcore.dll*20037.html

 

But could not find the exact version that JIm is saying is correct, but I do know it was from an early Vista 32 build.

 

 

I have been using the PMDG one for more than three months and don't have a problem, no freezing, no stutters - nice smooth frame rate, but then again I'm on win 8 -64 and that remains to be seen if we even need it there.

 

 

ut you may get other unexplained crashes, hanging, freezing and stutters

 

I don't think this dll is responsible for those, never heard nor seen that before with FSX on many systems, and that >never was why the 32 bit version was needed- but ok.

This issue with the 777 is starting to take on a bogeyman-type character where people are blaming everything under the sun for it.

 

You mean the heat's off FTXG?! No way... :smile:

 

 

Thanks firehawk, I just put that file in & tried flying in earth simulations Alderney & its made a big difference, the stutters I was getting have gone. Im really pleased.

 

Me too! I put the "right" version in my FSX folder and FSX is like P3D 2.0 now! It fixed all my stutters, it made my airplanes easier to fly, my water textures never looked better, the blurries are gone, it stopped my ENB crashes, I picked up 100FPS (even locked at 40), my autogen doesn't pop anymore, it calibrated my joystick, COUATL stopped asking me to update, it replaced all my peopleflow with bikini-clad hot chicks, heck it even made it so I could use 1024 textures in FS9! Amazing!

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7ejydmradza5p8v/UIAutomationCore.zip

 

try above. if not tell me where I can upload it

Mine was also the old version you mentioned, but are you sure of the consequences it can have?

Hey guys, I checked the timestamp of the file (which is indeed the wrong version) in my FSX folder and it matches the exact date that I installed Aerosoft's Twin Otter. Are any of you also Twin Otter customers? We need to make extra sure of the origin of this file before pointing fingers, as I'm not happy with the injection of such files without my express permission and will surely take it up to the developer.

 

regards

-E

Are any of you also Twin Otter customers?

I am, I had the incorrect UIautomationcore version too... Added the correct one now, I haven't yet tested if it has gotten rid of some random crashes I experienced. 

 

// I now reinstalled Aerosoft Twin Otter and it didn't seem to change the UIautomationcore file or add a new one so I don't think it's the one doing that. 

 

Did you install anything else at that date? 

I've started wondering which one is the "correct" version and which one is not ...

Same  here  but  I havn't  had  any issues  so far so i'am not  changing  it, if it  works why change  it.  No other  issues  as well

 

 

You mean the heat's off FTXG?! No way

 

lol what about  fsdts issues

I put the one that is suggested by Jim and is contained within the How To doc and FSX froze on me last night while I was flying the NGX, it never did that before.  Going back to the original one.

I am, I had the incorrect UIautomationcore version too... Added the correct one now, I haven't yet tested if it has gotten rid of some random crashes I experienced. 

 

// I now reinstalled Aerosoft Twin Otter and it didn't seem to change the UIautomationcore file or add a new one so I don't think it's the one doing that. 

 

Did you install anything else at that date? 

 

Actually you are right! I did install one other thing that date which I had overlooked. FS Dreamteam KJFK v2.0.

 

Check this out:

 

 

And now this:

 

 

It looks very much like a match!

 

Are any of you FSDT customers (KJFK v2, GSX, O'Hare, etc)? Because it would seem the "Addon Manager" / COAUTL Engine could be the culprit.

Like I mentioned in my former post... we need to make sure before launching flames!

 

Thanks to all

-E