October 27, 20169 yr As long as you have access to the Internet when launching and closing the application, you are good to go. Not when the Developer has decided he's had enough of Flightsim and moved on , what then ? The cloud function needs to be optional. Anyone remember PSS, Dreamfleet, FlightZone, the list goes on.
October 27, 20169 yr Commercial Member Ok let's clarify here. Yes, presets are stored in the cloud exclusively and are not stored on the user's machine. We will not change to a Subscription model for ChasePlane. You buy it, you have it. Most people these days have access to a constant internet connection so this is not an issue. You only really need a connection when starting and shutting down ChasePlane. This is designed to prevent data loss and also to prevent piracy of our software. If we ever decide to go out of business, ChasePlane will be made available as an offline software to existing customers. OldProp Solutions inc. does not plan on going out of business and using piracy protection like cloud storage is our way to assure that we, unlike the examples listed in the above post, stay in business. Many other add-ons and services rely on an active Internet Connection: PFPX, Active Sky, OpusFSI (Weather), VATSIM etc... If we want Community Features in this application, this is the only way we could efficiently do it. We plan on having an offline solution so you wouldn't be left empty-handed in rare occasions where your computer would go offline. I hope this answers many people's concerns! Keven Menard Technical Director, //42.
October 27, 20169 yr I do not have any concerns against the cloud - I use it alot and makes my live easier. Still the last point you mentioned was worrying me: We plan on having an offline solution so you wouldn't be left empty-handed in rare occasions where your computer would go offline. So, yes, I hope it is possible if there's maybe a server takeout at my side or your side what simply happens from time to time. (and remeber: germany is a third world land when it comes to internet technology ) looking forward to ChasePlane!!! Guenter Steiner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Betatester for: A2A, LORBY, FSR-Pillow Tester --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
October 27, 20169 yr Still the last point you mentioned was worrying me: "We plan on having an offline solution so you wouldn't be left empty-handed in rare occasions where your computer would go offline." So, yes, I hope it is possible if there's maybe a server takeout at my side or your side what simply happens from time to time. (and remeber: germany is a third world land when it comes to internet technology ) looking forward to ChasePlane!!! +1
October 27, 20169 yr I do not have any concerns against the cloud - I use it alot and makes my live easier. Still the last point you mentioned was worrying me: So, yes, I hope it is possible if there's maybe a server takeout at my side or your side what simply happens from time to time. (and remeber: germany is a third world land when it comes to internet technology ) looking forward to ChasePlane!!! Same here otherwise it will be a no go here local. Always have the opportunity to use stuff local even if it's partial. (PFPX, AS16 etc all works partial local) André
October 27, 20169 yr Not when the Developer has decided he's had enough of Flightsim and moved on , what then ? The cloud function needs to be optional. Anyone remember PSS, Dreamfleet, FlightZone, the list goes on. Well, that's a problem with almost every addon, of course. Cloud or not. Almost all addons need an internet connection to validate the license. Just like P3D itself. Even if an addon saves its data locally it will become useless if you can't install it. And even if you could install it, the addon will probably become useless because it won't be updated to run with newer versions of the sim. PSS, Dreamfleet etc. did absolutely nothing in the cloud but are useless anyway by now.
October 27, 20169 yr Oh, the internet is down today for any of a million reasons, I will fly, but I can't use an add on I paid for... If I cannot store everything on my PC and back it up with an external drive I will not buy it. Aaron Tirrell
October 27, 20169 yr Author Ok let's clarify here. Yes, presets are stored in the cloud exclusively and are not stored on the user's machine. We will not change to a Subscription model for ChasePlane. You buy it, you have it. Most people these days have access to a constant internet connection so this is not an issue. You only really need a connection when starting and shutting down ChasePlane. This is designed to prevent data loss and also to prevent piracy of our software. If we ever decide to go out of business, ChasePlane will be made available as an offline software to existing customers. OldProp Solutions inc. does not plan on going out of business and using piracy protection like cloud storage is our way to assure that we, unlike the examples listed in the above post, stay in business. Many other add-ons and services rely on an active Internet Connection: PFPX, Active Sky, OpusFSI (Weather), VATSIM etc... If we want Community Features in this application, this is the only way we could efficiently do it. We plan on having an offline solution so you wouldn't be left empty-handed in rare occasions where your computer would go offline. I hope this answers many people's concerns! No offence, but this will probably result in many people not using your new product. If I cannot use a weather program, because my internet is temporarily down, that is not a real problem because I can still fly using the built in weather from the sim. If I lose my camera positions, because you are making it impossible for me to store them on my computer, that I won't be able to fly. That is something I will never agree to. My way of thinking is that it would be beyond simple to have a backup of the camera settings in a data file in your program which you could always export to the cloud when shutting the program down at the end of the flight. In my opinion, having to load the settings before the flight is something that will keep me as an EZdok user. I own Ezdok, it works, and nobody can shut it off for any reason.
October 27, 20169 yr No offence, but this will probably result in many people not using your new product. If I cannot use a weather program, because my internet is temporarily down, that is not a real problem because I can still fly using the built in weather from the sim. If I lose my camera positions, because you are making it impossible for me to store them on my computer, that I won't be able to fly. That is something I will never agree to. My way of thinking is that it would be beyond simple to have a backup of the camera settings in a data file in your program which you could always export to the cloud when shutting the program down at the end of the flight. In my opinion, having to load the settings before the flight is something that will keep me as an EZdok user. I own Ezdok, it works, and nobody can shut it off for any reason. Well said, I totally agree. I was looking forward to this add on, but now I will defenitly NOT be buying because of this one feature.
October 28, 20169 yr Me neither. Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
October 28, 20169 yr This is designed to prevent data loss and also to prevent piracy of our software. Oki, this is understandable and make sense.But what about local storage and once a week (or so) online license checking.This way it still can be used (for a week) when no internet connection, after that application can not be used anymore. This gives you same piracy protection. Location: Vleuten, The Netherlands, 17.3dme SPL 108.40 | Simulator: FS2024 System: AMD 7800X3D - Gigabyte X670 - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - 2 x 2TB SSD - 32" 1440p Display - Windows 11 Pro
October 28, 20169 yr I cannot believe that a little add on like a camera viewer for a flight simulator needs to be subjected to an online verification EVERY time you use it. What happens if you suffer an outrage or server problems at the other end? You don't get to use what you paid for. I for one would not touch anything with an online verification every time you use it. I can understand their concerns re piracy but surely there are better ways of dealing with it than this. As for data loss, well why not export the data file to a local drive? They have lost me. And anyone else who writes about Chase plane will be reminded by me that this is virtually crippleware.
October 28, 20169 yr I need an internet connection to make my OpusFSI work. I need an internet connection to get AS16 real weather downloaded. Yet I have never had a problem doing either. I can't understand all the unnecessary angst. If you live in the USA or Europe, continuous internet connectivity is hardly a technology shortcoming.
October 28, 20169 yr I need an internet connection to make my OpusFSI work. I need an internet connection to get AS16 real weather downloaded. Yet I have never had a problem doing either. I have used saved weather and not been online with both of these apps. But with Chase he's saying if you can't get on line you can't use it. Maurice J I9 12900k \ EVGA 3080ti \ G-Skill 32GB \ Samsung 4K TV
October 28, 20169 yr So all you guys complaining must have dodgey interent connections, I would be looking at a better connection or isp I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
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