21 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

P3D V5 has given me the best ever flightsim experience so far. It has crashed a few times but I would prefer to be flying with it, rather than waiting for a release without bugs - which will never happen of course.

exactly! same here

31 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The sim looks fantastic

No, it doesn't.  Save truesky, it 'looks' exactly like yet another version of P3D, and it shouldn't cost full price to migrate to this version.  The 'looks' haven't changed at all.  

18 minutes ago, Saunameister said:

exactly! same here

+1 on this , I'm really impressed

2 minutes ago, anthony500 said:

+1 on this , I'm really impressed

looks much better to me also.  I just need the hotfix so I can get my planes!

5 minutes ago, joby33y said:

No, it doesn't.  Save truesky, it 'looks' exactly like yet another version of P3D, and it shouldn't cost full price to migrate to this version.  The 'looks' haven't changed at all.  

In *your* opinion.

For v5 LM added:

• Enhanced performance and graphical capabilities enabled by the new Microsoft DirectX 12 rendering engine.
• Realistic sky, clouds, and atmosphere with Simul trueSKY integration.
• Dynamic ocean with NVIDIA WaveWorks 2.0.
• Added sloped runway support including AI takeoff and landing capabilities.
• Updated time zones to match real-world boundaries.
• Added 8.33 kHz spacing support.
• Updated over 24,000 airports with new data across the entire globe.
• Updated global terrain, elevation, water/shoreline data, and traffic routes.
• Ground contact reaction is now done per contact point.
• Added surface perturbations to 2D water.
• Added SIDS and STARS visualization support for gauges.

And that is just a fraction of what they included, not to mention other fixes, which go far beyond just 'looks'.

In their opinion, this amount of work justfied a new version.

Most of the people who bought it, thought so too.
 

3 minutes ago, F737NG said:

Most of the people who bought it, thought so too.

Yep +1. Like the song says P3dV4 is "Gone-Gone-Gone". A few thousand hours of work mean nothing to some folks. I guess they work for nothing where he lives.

1 hour ago, Mroberts95 said:

flying an airliner etc is a no go right now.

I'm new to P3D (have v5) and have been on FSX and previous versions for 2 decades. Had an amazing sunset flight from PHX to DFW on VATSIM in the Aerosoft CRJ-700. It was a perfectly smooth flight and pure happiness until the plane crashed on approach once again for no reason. Completely destroyed my experience. I tried to panic slew back onto the glideslope but that didn't work out. Reloading a save point just isn't the same. I'm done flying until they release the hotfix hopefully sooner than later. Until then I'll be playing Red Dead Redemption 2.

Edited April 29, 20206 yr by NightOfDreams

The invisible terrain has made for some really interesting 'recovery' maneuvers - good practice for low energy airmanship and upset recovery. 🙃

In all seriousness, this obviously needs a fix and LM have acknowledged as much, but in the meantime...I've not had one in an ORBX region, so I've generally been avoiding, in particular, 3rd party airports that aren't surrounded sufficiently by third party terrain also... I had been getting them a lot at add-on airports applied to default terrain, so I just stopped trying to land near default terrain.  I put the Sierrasim and PKSim Colombia airports in and the ORBX South American mesh and haven't had one in Colombia or Flightbeam SEQM either.  For now, I'm mostly limiting my flying to ORBX regions, South America (w/ORBX free mesh) and Hawaii (where I haven't had one with Hawaii photoreal).

6 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

The invisible terrain has made for some really interesting 'recovery' maneuvers - good practice for low energy airmanship and upset recovery. 🙃

In all seriousness, this obviously needs a fix and LM have acknowledged as much, but in the meantime...I've not had one in an ORBX region, so I've generally been avoiding, in particular, 3rd party airports that aren't surrounded sufficiently by third party terrain also... I had been getting them a lot at add-on airports applied to default terrain, so I just stopped trying to land near default terrain.  I put the Sierrasim and PKSim Colombia airports in and the ORBX South American mesh and haven't had one in Colombia or Flightbeam SEQM either.  For now, I'm mostly limiting my flying to ORBX regions, South America (w/ORBX free mesh) and Hawaii (where I haven't had one with Hawaii photoreal).

That is some good info. I will try those products as I have them as well. I will report back once I crash or not. Hopefully the HF is dropping tomorrow. If not Friday at the latest

I agree with with NightOfDreams, being from the same cloth. Many years in FSX, including all the heartache, tears, and frustrations. I don't think it's unreasonable in this day an' age to expect things to have gotten better.

 

Trust me when I say they haven't. You all think P3D v5 "looks good"? Meh, not really.

My FSX from 9 years ago looked better with LESS processing power, and a far inferior graphics card. To me it's exactly the same. The default scenery is as crappy today as it was in 2009. Thank God for addon scenery I say. As for the included Aircraft, where are they? It's all military practically. Is this a Flight sim, or another war game? And don't get me started on the bugs! There is hardware that's been on the market for years (I've got all the panels), and they can't make it work straight out the box? Really? All that research into "Where", "How high", and "What's at" airports, but they can't get the sim to read a bloody flight panel with switches?

 

It's as if I've gone back in time, and I for one do NOT want to be back there thank you very much. Now I have some decisions to make. So if you'll excuse me.

 

Edit: Just looked at my OLD sig, man was that all I had back then 😄

Edited April 29, 20206 yr by Tigerclaw

23 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

Sierrasim Colombia airports

Unfortunatly I got one at SKBG Palonegro :(with ORBX LC South America) 😞 but Pasto is awesome 🙂

Waiting patiently for the fix .... and will not go back to 4.5. I never had a so pleasant flight experience : 30fps smooth with a lot of slider to the right, even in very heavy ORBX regions.

Gérard

Edited April 29, 20206 yr by gaab

2 hours ago, joby33y said:

No, it doesn't.  Save truesky, it 'looks' exactly like yet another version of P3D, and it shouldn't cost full price to migrate to this version.  The 'looks' haven't changed at all.  

So you're still on p3d v1? They have charged full price for each new version of the sim. Why would v5 be free? The looks haven't changed for all the other versions...so once again....why would v5 be any different?

 

13 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Name the software released without bugs.  If you name any  you are mistaken.

I would like to think that LM, being a leading military contractor with some fairly serious (and lethal) hardware, would be pretty close to being able to produce bug free software (or at least not release it with known bugs).
I have done some beta testing in my time and I guess I was lucky in that the developers took onboard and fixed the KNOWN bugs before release. Yes most software is buggy but that is usually because it hadn't been picked up, or noticed, during testing and may be due to the users set up.
To knowingly release flawed software (as has been suggested) kind of puts them in a similar category as Captain Sim doesn't it?

12 minutes ago, Tigerclaw said:

It's as if I've gone back in time, and I for one do NOT want to be back there thank you very much. Now I have some decisions to make. So if you'll excuse me.

Judging by the system specs in your sig, you *have* gone back in time, and are still living there!  A 3.4GHz 2600 non-K quad and a six-generations old GTX580?  TBH, I'm impressed that P3Dv5 will run on your PC at all.

 

I personally don't think any software is bug free either, one can expect visual bugs that's a given. But to have stuff just not work properly in the core is just not right. It's a flight sim. You should be able to take off, fly and land without crashing into stuff you can't even see. That's basic surely?

 

@ w6kd Yeah I just noticed I hadn't changed my sig from back then lol. Well that's what I used to run FSX on 30fps IF I was lucky. 

Edited April 29, 20206 yr by Tigerclaw