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MSFS 2020 or P3D v5

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4 hours ago, MySound said:

For me personally P3D is dead. As soon as PMDG releases the 737 and the weather is fixed - why would you ever go back to P3D. 

When you get right down to it once the NG3 or whatever they're calling it debuts and the weather and a few other things are improved P3D really won't have anything significant whatsoever to offer any longer.  It's really not very far off.  

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12 minutes ago, Noel said:

P3D really won't have anything significant whatsoever to offer any longer.

Before deleting it, I took it up for one last spin....performance was worse in P3D too...bahaha.

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It's also good to move on so your brain cells don't  stagnant.

Cheers

bs

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P3D as a viable simulator platform with a commercial future is pretty much dead. 

The only path forward is with MSFS 2020.

P3D is much more stable and has a much more  enhanced SDK than MSFS at this moment. And because we are not their target market LM  will develop P3D for many years to come. Long after the 10 year MS/Asobo commitment.

The outside world in MSFS looks better and is still evolving. Hopefully they fix the base as they have stated as that is the ground they are building the house on.

As someone with a home cockpit I take the best of 2 worlds : a P3D server without showing views and 2 MSFS outside view clients …. 
 
So for me the future looks bright 👍🏻 

 

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Since upgrading my CPU and reinstalling the OS I decided to axe my P3d as I didn’t want to bloat the fresh install with it and all the 3rd party stuff to make it bearable. Don’t regret that at all. Version 5.3 slightly peaked my interest but no, for me I think it’s time to move on. As probably has been stated earlier in the thread; when the big boys and gals such as PMDG arrive who would still be on P3D….?

Richard

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I decided to delete both X-Plane and P3D as soon as MSFS was released and was never more than happy with my decision. So much easier to keep up with 1 flight sim rather than manage multiple, and not to mention all the money I'm saving from having to buy addons and such for those other sims.

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Over the last year or so it seems that I use P3D 40% and MSFS 60%.  With detailed ORBX regions, P3D is ok for me as the detailed airliners are modelled so well that it takes over.  The 777 is amazing in it.  When more of them come to MSFS, I will likely use it more.  I do like being able to save a flight in P3D though.

Simon
11 hours ago, MVM55 said:

 the next version of Prepar3D will soon put MFS and their consoles in their place.

Even with the release of P3D version 5.3, P3D is still becoming obsolete from the viewpoint of 3rd party devs.  3rd party devs have abandoned P3D en masse, and I doubt even version 5.3 is going to change that.  Mind you, 3rd party devs abandoned P3D because the sales were very poor for their add-ons when MSFS was released.

Most likely, when more and more airliners are released for MSFS, there will be more people uninstalling P3D and permanently moving to MSFS.

No offense, but comments like yours are just a repeat of history: 

 

People have made so many comments like yours when a new and improved flight sim arrives on the block.  Just look at the thread I cited above.  Eventually, most of the users in that thread probably did move on from FS9, as FS9 became "obsolete."

I can guarantee you when a much more superior and advanced flight sim arrives on the market to compete against MSFS (not XP11 or P3D of course, they are both inferior to MSFS, at least to me), there will be some MSFS users saying the same thing and probably refusing to move on to the new and improved flight sim as well.

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I'm thinking that the accuracy of the world / weather modeling will ensure that MSFS will be the only game in town for military, civilian and corporate applications.

Regards 

bs

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1 minute ago, bean_sprout said:

I'm thinking that the accuracy of the world / weather modeling will ensure that MSFS will be the only game in town for military, civilian and corporate applications.

Regards 

bs

Hmmm, I am desperately trying to keep both on my fresh install of the MIGHTY Win 11 Pro !!!

I have started by MFS, pushed it immediately after Win 11 Pro was seating as he single OS in my desktop, and yesterday it was P3d v5.3.

Wow how BOTH are great, each on it's own. They both perform lke I had never experienced in Win 10, both in DX12 mode, both with their pros - in MFS by far the scenery and weather visuals, and some details on the even if unfinished FDM, in P3D the spectacular effects provided by Active Sky, still aead of MFS's weather, and the very few add-ons I use with it.

And there's yet another which my interactions with Austin during the last months suggest it's going to be yet another great sim, if not the best in terms of flight dynamics potential - X-Plane 12.

For a guy like me, who fights to keep 2, what most 3 ! installed at the same time, this is the end of the World 🙂

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13 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

I'm thinking that the accuracy of the world / weather modeling will ensure that MSFS will be the only game in town for military, civilian and corporate applications.

Regards 

bs

This is an interesting topic in itself.  If there is no contractual obligation preventing MSFS from entering the commercial space, would Microsoft use MSFS to enter the commercial space to compete against P3D?

From my understanding, there would be some changes needed to MSFS so that it is more suitable for commercial customers.  But unless there is some sort of contractual obligation that is still in place today that Microsoft promised to abide by when they signed the deal with LM over a decade ago, it's only logical for Microsoft to attempt a move into the commercial space to compete against P3D eventually.

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2 hours ago, Swe_Richard said:

Version 5.3 slightly peaked my interest but no,

Same here Richard. I paid a couple of visits to the Prepar3D sub-forum here and people were still faffing about with Affinity Masks etc. etc. so I see absolutely no need to go back.

Cheers, Søren Dissing

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