2 hours ago, Nemo said:

Is there a MSFS shader cache which has to be deleted from time to time?

If you own the steam version:  (whatever):\FS2020\steamapps\shadercache

 

I looked closely in DX12 to try to spot differences - water reflections, cloud edges, shadowing etc. but I couldn't see anything.  

I thought there may be the slightest difference to the colouring - more saturation, but I am not even sure of that now.

If there are any changes they must be so subtle to the degree they are not worth it when taking into account the lack of smoothness (stuttering when looking around in my case). 

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by bobcat999

Hopefully someone will post some actual comparison images, seems like this would be a very easy thing to prove or disprove.

I am also getting a much improved experience with DX12.

Here is my post on the official msfs forum 

I am getting an arguably better experience with DX12. For me DX12 provides better color saturation with HDR on and a bit better lighting overall. I have also noticed better reflections and better cloud shading. Frames rates are almost same but I DO get a bit of stuttering but that's not a big issue.

5900x
RTX 3080
32gb ram
Windows 11
4k resolution
Render scale 90%
All graphics settings ultra except for LOD which is at 300

 

 

 

 

 

"The things I like already with the DX12 Beta..."

I agree, I can feel a lot more DX now. except for my 3 Carenado aircraft, they crash immediately. I guess that was too much DX for them, but default C172 no problem whatsoever. DX12 works also great after the new WorkingTitle CJ4 update to v12.9. is there a slider or tweak setting hidden in the UserOpt.cfg to adjust the amount of DX, where I can change it to perhaps DX 11.5 or DX11.7 or a tool to change the DX level per airplane?

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p.s. now that I see people taking my nonsense seriously: its sunday, and we ran out of sarcasm powder in the kitchen.

 

 

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by turbomax

22 minutes ago, Baber20 said:

I am also getting a much improved experience with DX12.

Here is my post on the official msfs forum 

I am getting an arguably better experience with DX12. For me DX12 provides better color saturation with HDR on and a bit better lighting overall. I have also noticed better reflections and better cloud shading. Frames rates are almost same but I DO get a bit of stuttering but that's not a big issue.

5900x
RTX 3080
32gb ram
Windows 11
4k resolution
Render scale 90%
All graphics settings ultra except for LOD which is at 300

It may as well be merely a case of good booze: it's already proven that it makes all women appear more attractive. 

If it works with women it can certainly work with a DX12 wrapper as well 🙂

It can be changed with a click of a button (ok you have to re start the sim).

Try it, see if it is better, if not why bother.

There is this curious internet thing, where someone does something then tries to convince everyone else its the best thing.....

Makes me wonder really, who are they really trying to convince...?

Agree with OP and they have outlined the observations well. It's suttle but there is defintely an improvement with the DX12 implimentation. Am running a 1080ti and get good frames and stutters are less trouble away from metropolitan areas, in the clouds it's just.... better. The lighting in the sky / clouds is what I notice the most. Although I can't say I noticed the scenery lighting in the same way, very much looking forward to the future of DX12 with MSFS>

Do we need perhaps specific adjustments in the Nvidia CP?

"Do we need perhaps specific adjustments in the Nvidia CP?"

what we need is some LDS adjustments so we can all share the DX12 revelation of the OP. was he also part of the free speech movement in the 60s ?

 

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by turbomax

9 hours ago, Sesquashtoo said:

I also picked up in most places an extra 1 or 2 FPS, but nothing below my normal 29/30 floor.

you provide not s single comparison screenshot to proof your statement, therefore I find it absolutely not credible especially when everybody else reports on average around 10-20 fps less and more stuttering. all your screenshots show a constant 30 fps, which you'll get with 60Hz half monitor refresh or fps limitation in MSFS or Nvidia CP, no matter if DX11 or DX12.

David Mills produced a great DX12/DX11 comparison video, that says it all. if anybody sees any performance or visual improvements in DX12, can I have some of your LDS please:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/610576-video-dx12-vs-dx11-fps-comparison/

 

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by turbomax

If you watch the video closely, in the DX12 version there is a snake hidden under a bush, which is not implemented in DX11.

It may be the cause of the ssssss-ssstuttering.

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

you provide not s single comparison screenshot to proof your statement, therefore I find it absolutely not credible especially when everybody else reports around 10 fps less and stuttering. all your screenshots show a constant 30 fps, which you'll get with 60Hz half monitor refresh or fps limitation in MSFS or Nvidia CP, no matter if DX11 or DX12.

David Mills produced a great DX12/DX11 comparison video, that says it all. if anybody sees any performance or visual improvements in DX12, can I have some of your LDS please:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/610576-video-dx12-vs-dx11-fps-comparison/

 

Here is another comparison video for you. Not everyone is getting worse performance with DX12.

https://youtu.be/53Y2JxE6PD4

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by Baber20

19 minutes ago, Baber20 said:

Here is another comparison video for you. Not everyone is getting worse performance with DX12.

https://youtu.be/53Y2JxE6PD4

From the comments.. Interesting

Even in DX11, disabling that map gave me an extra 5 FPS.

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by Tuskin38

I don't know if I'm seeing placebo, but the earth colors and overall balance looks more natural.

.. but then again, this is a forum where certain people can't tell the difference between LOD 100 and LOD 400. Or 512x512 and 4096x4096 textures.

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by Republic3D