1 hour ago, Ikarus280 said:

Captain sim just released a 767 with the internal systems of a 747 and the visual cockpit of a 777 for 30 bucks: https://fselite.net/content/captain-sim-releases-764-captain-for-msfs/

This is what we used to call freeware merges in the FS9 days. Incredible how low standards has sunk. After the release of FSL Concorde for P3D I have no idea what to expect anymore. 

In case you havent noticed, CS recieved heaps of (rightfully so) critizism for this release in the MSFS forum.

And the freeware peaks are at least as equal as P3D's freeware peaks. Do we have anything that resembles the WT G1000Nxi?, Cj4 mod? FBW A320N for use in Prepar3d?
The great thing is that Freeware is again fluorishing, as it was back in FS9 days!
It was basically dead (or close to) with P3D aside from magnificent Ai packages and a few more. 

At least for me, I see far more upsides as a simmer than downsides.
 

Edited December 14, 20214 yr by SAS443

4 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

In case you havent noticed, CS recieved heaps of (rightfully so) critizism for this release in the MSFS forum.

And the freeware peaks are at least as equal as P3D's freeware peaks. Do we have anything that assembles WT G1000Nxi?, Cj4 mod? FBW A320N for use in Prepar3d?
And the great thing is that Freeware is again fluorishing, as it was back in FS9 days!
It was basically dead (or close to) with P3D aside from magnificent Ai packages and a few more. 

At least for me, I see far more upsides as a simmer than downsides.
 

Fbw mod. Sure we have the fslabs! Not freeware yes. 

1 hour ago, SAS443 said:

In case you havent noticed, CS recieved heaps of (rightfully so) critizism for this release in the MSFS forum.

And the freeware peaks are at least as equal as P3D's freeware peaks. Do we have anything that resembles the WT G1000Nxi?, Cj4 mod? FBW A320N for use in Prepar3d?
The great thing is that Freeware is again fluorishing, as it was back in FS9 days!
It was basically dead (or close to) with P3D aside from magnificent Ai packages and a few more. 

At least for me, I see far more upsides as a simmer than downsides.
 

In Russia there's lots of freeware payware quality airports being released for P3D, and also Project Tupolev Tu-154 which is a study level airliner (sadly not updated for V5 yet). 

Yes, there is a lot of great freeware being developed for MSFS as well but the payware sector looks like bad for the moment. 

This may change, but to use the sim for serious flying Asobos game breaking bugs every few months needs to be fixed as well. 

Marketing 101 is knowing the difference between audience and demographics. Good luck your reading of that equation, I'm glad I don't have to stake my future on betting the MSFS audience is a more lucrative market than the P3D demographics. Fortunately, the free market abhors a vacuum. It may come as a shock to PMDG, but we can actually live without them. But thanks for the reminder to buy iFly''s Boeing whatever. I like the company and will put my money where my mouth is. Confession: I did recently buy the DC-6 and installed in in v5.2 because I really needed a DC-6. Glad I didn't decide to wait until Hell froze over to get a supported version. Ah, being an old retiree with no remaining interest in women, drugs and fast cars. Or MSFS. My money's got to go somewhere, and I remain really, really interested in P3D and probably will for the next ten years. Now, in the long run, demographics will change as will interests and the hobby itself. Another way of looking at things would be to snarf up as much P3D money as possible until its users all die of old age as you transition toward MSFS. Anyway, I have no doubt whatsoever that I'll be happily using P3D to the end, and somebody will be making money off me while others won't.

19 minutes ago, Tim_Capps said:

 

 

20 minutes ago, Tim_Capps said:

I did recently buy the DC-6 and installed in in v5.2

How did you do that? The ole registry trick?

2 hours ago, Ikarus280 said:

In Russia there's lots of freeware payware quality airports being released for P3D, and also Project Tupolev Tu-154 which is a study level airliner (sadly not updated for V5 yet). 

I got you.. in context: Simmers of the world unite and come fly to Vorkuta! 

Sorry, but this is all too 'shtetl' as they say I heard once, including your PT's Tu-154 sadly not updated for V5 yet.

Moving on.

Edited December 14, 20214 yr by Dirk98

40 minutes ago, Patco Lch said:

 

How did you do that? The ole registry trick?

That is the best way

6 hours ago, pgde said:

And @simbol is one of the few developers that has not changed priority. Bravo Simbol!

Happy Holidays to all!

 

6 hours ago, micstatic said:

Not all developers have left p3d people behind. Heck look at @simbol  he has continued to support us. 

Hi Guys,

First many thanks for all the support, feels great to see how customers really value that close relationship. It just re-reiterate my position regarding supporting my customers since I want then to remain loyal not matter what happens in the future (which is always uncertain).

Now I think it is important for me to clarify few things:

1) Number one, new sales on P3D are incredible low, worst in history.. I have said this a few times here on Avsim so people understand current 3rd party developers position and to give everyone an insight from the other side of the coin. Something I always try to do since it is important in my view, we both understand each other, me understanding customers needs, you understanding our limitations, challenges, etc.

2) If I had to live from new sales from P3D alone, my business would crash in about 7-12 months easy.. Neither I would be able to support my home, bills, food and family... I have also mentioned this few times on forums here at AVSIM so people understand what "some" 3rd party developers are going thru during this transition and the multiple market shifts happening on this hobby. As a result, I have a full time job on technology during shift of 10 hours per day and I have to work on flight sim stuff at nights, weekends and holidays so I can catch up with the competition or I would be wiped out of the map much quicker.

Just to give you some insight, my normal total sleep times per week are between 10 to 20 hours maximum sometimes, being thinking to change my nickname to Zombie. 

3) For the reasons above, it doesn't mean I haven't change priorities at all.. I have to adjust, after all I have a business to run and to keep alive, not only for the future of my family, but also because I own such responsibility to all my current loyal customers, they put faith on me and accordingly they deserve continuing receiving updates, supports and many new products for many platforms in the future.

4) Let's make it clear before my next point, I am not abandoning my customer base behind, I will continue supporting and providing updates for P3D (V5.X, V6, V7, V10, wherever it goes), so rest assured if you bought something I worked with, you will not be left behind with a piece software that suddenly stops working. Supports for past, current and future sales is ongoing and I will always do my best to respond and provide the best support experience you will ever have with any product on this hobby, any of my current or past customers that has requested my assistance can confirm what I just said.

In addition any new features I can introduce to current products will continue to happen, and if the market allows it and I see good signs of ROI new products for P3D will then come.

So now let's get to the last point.

5) So you wondering, so Simbol what are you up to then? well I am shifting my business a bit doing something I never expected I would ever do.. but hey, life you either evolve or your are left behind and go extinct!. Now I am a person that very rarely quits!! never surrender is my moto. So you will hear the news of what I have been cooking very soon, I need a couple of weeks or maybe 1 month to finish something so I can do a video so everyone can see and start judgement day lamao.. 

I do hope you all feel re-assured about my commitment to you as customers, we are all together on this journey.. many of you went to MSFS.. then came back to P3D, others went to MSFS and never saw them again.. others decided to stay on both platforms, wherever you go or wherever you do it makes no difference to me, you supported me once, I support you forever... that's the deal with me... So my objective / mission? I want to continue seeing you, not matter on what platform you are.. and for this, I need to "evolve" and expand.

Hope that gets the message across, see you in the sky 🙂

Regards,
Simbol

 

 

Edited December 15, 20214 yr by simbol

18 minutes ago, simbol said:

my normal total sleep times per week are between 10 to 20 hours maximum sometimes, being thinking to change my nickname to Zombie.

Thank you for all of your efforts (the same goes to all developers who continue to work on products for P3D).
I know it's very easy for me to sit here and say it, however, please take care of yourself. Less than 49 hours of sleep a week (7 hours a day) leads to significant health problems.

(And with that, I'm off to bed myself).
 

Edited December 15, 20214 yr by F737NG

2 hours ago, simbol said:

so Simbol what are you up to then? well I am shifting my business a bit doing something I never expected I would ever do.. but hey, life you either evolve or your are left behind and go extinct!.

thanks for your insights & best wishes for your future endeavours,

looking forward to hear more details,

your P3D AI Lights Reborn is one of my favourite products for P3D - & second to none with its most professional installation & interface…

Cheers

11 hours ago, Patco Lch said:

How did you do that? The ole registry trick?

Yup. I haven't gotten the livery manager to work yet, but that shouldn't be a problem. Everybody tells me it flies fine, and messing around with a bit doesn't make me worried it won't. The biggest disappointment is it doesn't seem to play well with FSUIPC.

17 hours ago, Iadbound said:

 

Anyway, my reaction to RSR's missives is that PMDG has only one strategy right now -- get every product it can into MSFS and the marketplace (if possible), recoup it's likely considerable investment, and hopefully have the greatest stream of revenue they've ever seen as quickly possible.  If doing anything else diverts resources from that strategy, PMDG won't do it.  Even if that means alienating some longstanding customers. 

 

 

 

I agree with your comments but I have to question the PMDG strategy here. I consider customer support and updates an important part of purchasing a sim product.If I am not confident that I will get the support I need, more than likely I wont buy the product.

For me the strategy has its pitfalls in that, deserting customers on a current sim means I wont be purchasing a PMDG MSFS product. I think a number of us here own multiple sims so I think this is somewhat short sighted.

Based on RSRs comments, I will be certainly exploring iFly for my 737 next purchase since I did not (deliberately) take advantage of the P3D/MSFS combo offer a year ago as I suspected it would not all be plain sailing.

2 hours ago, 787flyer said:

I consider customer support and updates an important part of purchasing a sim product.If I am not confident that I will get the support I need, more than likely I wont buy the product.

An excellent point.  However, since PMDG is hanging all of its hopes and efforts on MSFS, it will have to provide updates for the simple reason that almost every MSFS update is likely to generate errors or break the PMDG products. And since the MSFS updates are mandatory, PDMG will have to update the aircraft if they want to keep selling them.  So it's a fait accompli. 

I propose that developers who have decided P3D is a dead end save money on marketing and support by simply stop selling and supporting all P3D products. They are nothing but a drain on development resources for MSFS. Just make a clean break and shove all your chips into the only viable platform. We get it without being regularly reminded what a horrible business decision doing anything for P3D is and how grateful we should be for their sacrifices of some in continuing to serve a handful of deluded bitter-enders. It's also possible there is an element of self-fulfilling prophecy here, and possible interest in shaping the market.

2 hours ago, Iadbound said:

However, since PMDG is hanging all of its hopes and efforts on MSFS,

They said work on P3D stuff is halted right now, not that they've abandoned P3D. Or did I miss something?