January 5, 20224 yr 17 hours ago, David Mills said: I'm currently using DX11 because DX12 reduces FPS on my system. couldn't have said it any better or shorter 😊 AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
January 5, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, turbomax said: couldn't have said it any better or shorter 😊 It's the opposite in my experience with the Ryzen 5600x 32 GB RAM, and an RTX 3060 Ti 8GB, on Windows 11. Running MFS in DX12 mode offers not oly better / more stable FPS but also no stutters. Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
January 5, 20224 yr 9 hours ago, Tinribs said: DX12 - It's the future. If it's the future, we are all doomed.
January 5, 20224 yr 9 hours ago, Tinribs said: DX12 - It's the future. DX11 - it's the present. DX12 - when the future is near. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
January 5, 20224 yr 11 hours ago, David Mills said: I'm very surprised how lopsided the vote is. I don't understand why your surprised. I remember your post complaining about the DX 12 implementation when it was released. The whole point was that it was supposed to be a very unpolished raw first implementation that wasn't fit for mass adoption.. You complained anyway. Oh well .. people tried it and now realized what the developers were saying all along. Personally i haven't even got around to testing it yet. 95% of my sim time is in the FBW A320N and the expectations are low that it will give me any tangible benefit at the moment. They just essentially converted the code to fit the dx12 package. No optimizations worth noting have been worked on as yet. I'm fine with giving the developers time to optimize the code in due course. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
January 5, 20224 yr I would love to use dx12 but I cannot use the popout function of the Aerosoft CRJ FMS to use it on my external monitor because the game crashes when I use that function. Aersoft won’t so anything until dx12 is in beta, so yeah need to stick to dx11. DX12 is so much better on my system (around 5-10 fps more)
January 5, 20224 yr DX11 and the sim appears to be rock solid for me at this time. DX12 is in beta at the moment so I see no need to enable it. Ryzen 9800X3D, RTX 5090, 64GB, Win 11. MSFS2020. Moza, MFG, Fulcrum & Virpil controllers. Quest 3 for VR.
January 5, 20224 yr DX11. I fear my 1650 has not enough VRAM for DX12. At least it couldn't survive P3D v5. Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
January 5, 20224 yr When P3D went to DX12, I was running a 1060 with 4 Gigs of Vram. I could run it with medium settings and A2A GA's were pulling 3.5 Vram at that point. Now I've got a 3060 with 12 gigs Vram and MSFS with all high and 4 or 5 settings on Ultra, I'm pulling about 5 something gigs. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700F CPU @ 2.90GHz (8 cores) Hyper on, Evga RTX 3060 12 Gig, 32 GB ram, Windows 11, P3D v6, and MSFS 2020 and a couple of SSD's
January 5, 20224 yr Don't forget that P3D didn't check the exceeding of the amount of VRAM (Does it that now?). This is required when using DX12. DX11 does that by it self. I do hope MS/Asobo will do memory management when switching to DX12 by default. Edited January 5, 20224 yr by bvdboomen
January 5, 20224 yr Whilst researching DX12 issues, I found the following which may be of interest. If anyone has any other tips, please let us know: • If you’re running Nvidia Low-Latency Mode in NVCP, it will not work with DX12 and should be disabled (the sim takes full control of the render queue)• If “Disable Fullscreen Optimizations” was enabled in the properties of flightsimulator.exe, this should be one of the toggles to check if issues arise in DX12 (things like CTD or crashes when alt+tabbing)• Stuttering in DX12 can sometimes be caused by Control Flow Guard (CFG) in Windows Exploit Protection (seen in other DX12 titles - Control, Division 2, etc.); flightsimulator.exe can be added with a program setting in Exploit Protection with CFG toggled off Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)
January 5, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Luis Hernandez said: I fear my 1650 has not enough VRAM for DX12. 19 minutes ago, bvdboomen said: I do hope MS/Asobo will do memory management when switching to DX12 by default. VRAM management is one of those things I've been curious about and testing - looks like MS / Asobo have been careful in that department (understandable as they have to work within console requirements as well). Some comparison shots showing VRAM usage in the same test scenario: DX11 DX12 Overall FPS is lower in DX12, but you can see the load being transferred over to the GPU which bodes well for future optimizations.
January 5, 20224 yr DX11 since DX12 is for, as you know, beta testing. Edited January 5, 20224 yr by Magic Man
January 5, 20224 yr 16 hours ago, David Mills said: I'm very surprised how lopsided the vote is. Really?
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