1 hour ago, sdirand said:

 

Another ghost developper is FS Labs.

 

Frankly, I see them going the way of Level-D.

Their ongoing secrecy and the flat out refusal to give any indication on where they are at, their future plans etc. means users will lose interest given other high-end options are available.

6 hours ago, ark4diusz said:

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• Bluebird 757 somewhere in 2024

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I believe @sherv_BBS once said that Bluebird tries to achieve a targeted Q4/2024 release.

I've been simming for 20 years now and every single addon that aimed a date x release was delayed and released on day y eventually.
Never ever has an aircraft addon been released on a date or timeframe that was communicated more than half a year in advance.

The 757 (along side with the Q400) is my most anticipated aircraft addon within the next 12 months and I'd bet a lot of money on a Q1/2025 release (or later) and I won't blame BBS for it.
Sherv and his team should take their time to make an addon that can compete PMDG (panel state function, system depth).

3 hours ago, omarsmak30 said:

and pulled the plug from MSFS2020

No they didn't
https://fselite.net/content/aerosoft-confirms-a330-delayed-until-microsoft-flight-simulator-2024/

  

2 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Inibuilds A320 Neo this month - Probably?

Not probably, it has been confirmed.

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, Wildblue said:

Maybe the release of MSFS2024!!?

Yup, and what existing default airliners will get the in-house Working Title and Asobo treatment for increased fidelity in MSFS 2024 (likely/hopefully the 747 and 787 will get amped up even more), and more importantly which new birds in the default fleet will be contracted to 3rd party devs for high fidelity treatment (iniBuilds has to be involved here I'd think given their existing close relationship with MS/Asobo, perhaps a default ini A330 🙂)

Outside chance (like way outside) that FSL releases something in 2024?.. maybe the Concorde, or an Airbus (in which case I hope it's an A330 for our sake and their sake).
 

9 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Yup, and what existing default airliners will get the in-house Working Title and Asobo treatment for increased fidelity in MSFS 2024 (likely/hopefully the 747 and 787 will get amped up even more), and more importantly which new birds in the default fleet will be contracted to 3rd party devs for high fidelity treatment (iniBuilds has to be involved here I'd think given their existing close relationship with MS/Asobo, perhaps a default ini A330 🙂)

Outside chance (like way outside) that FSL releases something in 2024?.. maybe the Concorde, or an Airbus (in which case I hope it's an A330 for our sake and their sake).
 

So Jorg pretty much said ALL of the default planes will be payware quality and I never really considered the airliners. iniBuilds probably lied to us when they said the Beluga in the trailer wasn't theirs lol. That's a mammoth undertaking considering the amount of default planes the sim has so it will be interesting to see just how many third party devs are involved.

The 787 and 747 should definitely get spruced up since they have payware avionics but I wouldn't call them payware aircraft overall, especially if the Vision Jet is the benchmark we have to work with for now.

1 hour ago, Konterhalbe said:

I believe @sherv_BBS once said that Bluebird tries to achieve a targeted Q4/2024 release.
The 757 (along side with the Q400) is my most anticipated aircraft addon within the next 12 months and I'd bet a lot of money on a Q1/2025 release (or later) and I won't blame BBS for it.
 

Keep you bet $ in your pocket its not happening for either of those projects.

(or later). Yes it will and its not because I hope or wish so.

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by JBDB-MD80

3 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

I think FSLTL gets many of the models right. AIG might have models as well. So if you want accurate models of the planes, maybe look into FSLTL and AIG.

FSLTL-AIG is only real live-AI traffic, not real people in online, right?, I don´t like either too much in IVAO. I tried AIG some years ago in the beginnings and it didn´t convince me, maybe now is different and deserves sure a new try.

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by peloto

3 hours ago, micstatic said:

I assume they are.  But who knows.  Last official remark:

It’s basically the same message as FlightSim Labs.

But a lot more cheerful…..😃

3 hours ago, RobJC said:

I saw that. It was depressing but still holding out hope! 

It would be nice if they eventually demonstrate the expansion of their capabilities by rolling out RNAV/RNP + Missed approach + Secondary flight plan on the Neo first.

4 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Airliners....booooring.

Haha!

Depends on who you ask? Anything with a GPS flying over FL100 could be considered boring.

Edited March 20, 20242 yr by JBDB-MD80

11 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Depends on who you ask? Anything with a GPS flying over FL100 could be considered boring.

Unless we have fly airliners circa  60th and 70th using intertrial system navigation 🙂 Running station og pilot, flight engineer and navigator is not boring at all LOL

3 hours ago, DavidP said:

Frankly, I see them going the way of Level-D.

Their ongoing secrecy and the flat out refusal to give any indication on where they are at, their future plans etc. means users will lose interest given other high-end options are available.

I know they are probably buried in commercial contracts which helps. But it’s not helpful at all to them that the airbus msfs market is extremely clogged 

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

Unless we have fly airliners circa  60th and 70th using intertrial system navigation 🙂 Running station og pilot, flight engineer and navigator is not boring at all LOL

That's why the JustFlight A300B2 might be so interesting -- it will have real INS supposedly.

The one I really want would be the DC-8 fitted with INS -- the P3Dv4 DC-8 was by a developer Michael Cependa, who published his DC-8 thru Aerosoft.  However I'm not sure he's working on that now, it was kind of a one-off development and he may be doing other things now for all I know.

5 hours ago, sdirand said:

Another ghost developper is FS Labs.

I'm sure they are working on something for msfs (at least the concorde) as they won't stay financialy afloat very long with P3D. 

But are they working on something else? How far are they in their development? It's the complete mistery.

Even if the concorde is something special, it remains a niche aircraft, something not everybody would buy. And if they also work on their usual A32X, the market is already completely flooded. It would have to be something never seen before on a A320 to see most people buy a FSL A320 when they already own the Fenix.

Our best hope is that they switched to the A330 as they would only have Aerosoft to deal with on that project.

Pretty sure FSLABS also makes things for IRL training etc.

I doubt they are going to close up shop considering they brought on more people in one of their last announcements they made.

I also think PMDG hinted/said at one point they do stuff outside of the Entertainment Sim community as well.

So even if we don't hear anything doesn't mean they are gone.

 

Need a FH-227, YS-11, 737-200, 727-100/200