2 hours ago, flyingscampi said:

....There is hardly any difference to performance or the user experience (some ask how to move the Start button back to the left corner.....

Oh, dear Lord.....where have they moved it to in Windows 11?

Just now, Christopher Low said:

Oh, dear Lord.....where have they moved it to in Windows 11?

The middle. I guess they have to justify their pay packet somehow 🙂

Annoyingly, I can't get to windows insider due to group policies on my version of W11 Enterprise Edition.

I've googled for ways around it and tried a few recommended solutions in the group policy manager to no avail.

Guess I am going to have to wait for the official version 😡

I found a very slight lag in file explorer in win11, and especially with the context menu, infuriating when working with lots of files as I do every day

barely noticeable if you aren't always using file explorer

the new context menu seems to be pointlessly different, after so many years of knowing where "rename" and "delete" were instinctively, why move them to icons?!

The only issue I have with Win11 is that they changed the right-click menu (when clicking on a file or folder). I’ve worked around that by making a registry change. 

Hmm, I’m tempted to join Insider to test this update. So far in this thread I’ve not seen anyone that have actually tried it.

6 hours ago, Drebin27 said:

Just finished upgrading my PC. I was on Win 11 before but this time I installed a de-bloated version of Win 11.
You can create the Win 11 install USB as normal using the "media creation tool" on the Microsoft website.
Then create a file called "autounattend.xml" and simply copy that to the USB.

This website makes it easy to create the xml file:-

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

More info here:-

https://youtu.be/VapEEf4k7Eo?si=Vy0F0x_RazyVGlmi

 

I am planning on doing this myself, I will just integrate latest drivers for the components as well. 
How’s the experience with the de-bloated version?

39 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

The only issue I have with Win11 is that they changed the right-click menu (when clicking on a file or folder). I’ve worked around that by making a registry change. 

Hmm, I’m tempted to join Insider to test this update. So far in this thread I’ve not seen anyone that have actually tried it.

Been on Win11 for quite a while now but the first thing I did after installing it was to install program called StartAllBack.

Has a ton of features. Among them, the restoration of the "classic" context menu to Explorer.

Costs $5 and worth every penny IMO.

 

 

 

 

28 minutes ago, Johnny19 said:

I am planning on doing this myself, I will just integrate latest drivers for the components as well. 
How’s the experience with the de-bloated version?

All working fine. Windows installed with hardly anything in the Start menu 👏.

I selected this option "Add user accounts interactively during Windows Setup" in the xml so I could use my Windows account and have it activate.

Allright, so I decided to take the leap and joined the Windows Insider program. I've done a before/after performance comparison using CapFrameX. 

Hardware: see signature. Mild CPU overclock using PBO and negative curve on both chiplets. DDR5 overclocked from EXPO 6000Mhz to 6200Mhz with optimized timings. 

System:

• Nvidia driver 560.70
• 3840x2160 @ 120Hz
• Resizable BAR on
• Game mode on

MSFS:

• 4K DX12 FG
• DLSS+DLAA
• Render scale 130
• TLOD 300 OLOD 200
• Ultra settings w/ shadows 6K

Test settings:

• Fenix A320
• Aerosoft ENGM Oslo
• Clear skies noon
• No AI traffic
• Holding pattern at 3000ft, inbound course 315, 2nm legs
• Capture time 5 min

Win11 23H2:

Win11 24H2:

Conclusion: 

On my rig, a 3.8% increase in FPS. In terms of frame time consistency, the difference is almost negligible. 

Some useful info re: 24H2:

How to update: https://www.easeus.com/backup-recovery/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-24h2.html

TechPowerUp article 11 hrs ago: https://www.techpowerup.com/325967/amd-ryzen-9000-series-zen-5-tested-on-windows-11-24h2-update-shows-significant-performance-gains

Quote

AMD's Ryzen processors have received a significant performance upgrade, thanks to the recent Windows 11 24H2 update. This development addresses initial disappointments with the Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" series performance, particularly in gaming applications. The update, which improves branch prediction capabilities, has resulted in substantial gains for both the Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" and Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPU lineups. According to tests by Hardware Unboxed, Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" CPUs have shown double-digit performance increases across multiple game titles, a boost typically seen only between generational upgrades.

Interestingly, contrary to AMD's initial claims, the performance gains are not limited to the Zen 5 architecture. The Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors have also benefited from the update, with minimal performance differences observed between comparable Zen 5 and Zen 4 models after the update. This development marks a crucial turning point for AMD, addressing earlier criticisms and narrowing the gap between reported and expected performance figures. As users install the Windows 11 24H2 update, they can expect enhanced gaming experiences across a wide range of titles, highlighting the complex interplay between hardware capabilities and software optimization in modern computing. Below are the results from Hardware Unboxed benchmarks.

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

The only issue I have with Win11 is that they changed the right-click menu (when clicking on a file or folder). I’ve worked around that by making a registry change. 

Hmm, I’m tempted to join Insider to test this update. So far in this thread I’ve not seen anyone that have actually tried it.

I've tried it today and I see no difference at a first glance. But I cannot say much because of the permanent connection failures.

5 hours ago, EGLD said:

the new context menu seems to be pointlessly different, after so many years of knowing where "rename" and "delete" were instinctively, why move them to icons?!

It’s this sort of thing that makes people reluctant to embrace a new Windows OS.

Yes, I admit I’m a luddite but why change stuff like this or the location of the Start menu?

 

3 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

a 3.8% increase in FPS. In terms of frame time consistency, the difference is almost negligible. 

and not noticeable in game. that's exactly what I had expected. the only major real fps increase I have ever experienced in MSFS was NVidia's frame generation.

"users ....  can expect enhanced gaming experiences across a wide range of titles" 🤣

except for the game we are discussing here exclusively.

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by turbomax

There's a Windows update available now (KB5041587).

It's supposed to have the "branch prediction optimization" that's going to be in 24H2.

https://wccftech.com/amd-branch-prediction-optimization-ryzen-9000-7000-cpus-available-windows-11-23h2/

"AMD has confirmed that it's bringing the same branch prediction optimizations to Windows 11 23H2 via backporting. The new update will be listed under the Windows Update menu in the "Optional Updates" section as "KB5041587" which makes things a lot easier for those who haven't updated or opted into the 24H2 preview."

2 hours ago, turbomax said:

and not noticeable in game. that's exactly what I had expected. the only major real fps increase I have ever experienced in MSFS was NVidia's frame generation.

I really tried to make the test scenario as accurate as possible. According to my tests, the performance increase is lackluster, borderline negligible. Too soon for a conclusion though - I'll avait further tests by intrepid Avsim enthusiasts.

2 hours ago, turbomax said:

"users ....  can expect enhanced gaming experiences across a wide range of titles" 🤣

except for the game we are discussing here exclusively.

Indeed. 

I'll stand down for now and let the Win10/11 discussion continue. I have more improtant matters to attend to (i.e. the Spencer/JJ dilemma). As you were. 

Edited August 27, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett