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Back to MSFS 2020. I hate this stupid GUI

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The UI / UX is absolutely atrocious. I am not joking, trying to set up controls and I've almost had it, this entire process is so needlessly slow, convoluted and downright awful. I've spent no less than 20 god word not allowed minutes just trying to set up my hat view axis to be like it was in MSFS, yet I've made no progress. Finally found the axis assignment but it's ungodly slow for some reason.

 

This is a complete joke. 

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  • I understand your frustration; there is a learning curve. The quoted statement however is simply not true...

  • YES 😍 - and seems a good choice to go back to MSFS 2020, anybody can say what they want MSFS 2020 has now worked out ( over 4 years upating and improvings ) to a very fine and usfull Flightsimulator a

  • To this day, I have never, ever understood why it has been so difficult for Asobo not to have created a simple, straightforward camera system. You move your viewpoint to a required custom position via

6 minutes ago, Sethos said:

The UI / UX is absolutely atrocious. I am not joking, trying to set up controls and I've almost had it, this entire process is so needlessly slow, convoluted and downright awful. I've spent no less than 20 god word not allowed minutes just trying to set up my hat view axis to be like it was in MSFS, yet I've made no progress. Finally found the axis assignment but it's ungodly slow for some reason.

 

This is a complete joke. 

I bound the same control axes to my hat as 2020 and it works exactly the same?

Cockpit View Yaw Axis to left/right

Cockpit View Pitch Axis to up/down

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12 minutes ago, Sethos said:

The UI / UX is absolutely atrocious. I am not joking, trying to set up controls and I've almost had it, this entire process is so needlessly slow, convoluted and downright awful. I've spent no less than 20 god word not allowed minutes just trying to set up my hat view axis to be like it was in MSFS, yet I've made no progress. Finally found the axis assignment but it's ungodly slow for some reason.

 

This is a complete joke. 

The terms are the same in 2020 and 2024. If you have dual monitors, you can probably run 2020 side by side with 2024, look up the term in 2020, and then under the same term in 2024, bind the input.

I was able to setup all my views and controls in 2024 probably in 30 minutes? I got stuck on 2 terms and I forgot what is was named so I just booted up 2020, got the name of the term, and I found it in 2024 and bound it.

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Just now, flyingscampi said:

I bound the same control axes to my hat as 2020 and it works exactly the same?

Cockpit View Yaw Axis to left/right

Cockpit View Pitch Axis to up/down

Yeah those are the ones I've bound but for some reason they are incredibly slow, like unusably slow. Tried tweaking the 'Action Curve' as well on it, that does absolutely nothing. 

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I find it unbelievable to think that so many are complaining about some of the most basic and rudimentary elements of this new sim. I mean, what the hell were all the beta testers doing?

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No another shocking decision to change the UI and also to not be able to import the MSFS 2020 controls. I've just about set my controls up (roughly) but took me hours and was so needlessly complicated.

 

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I've spent a lot of time trying to set up cockpit and instrument views - to no avail. I like my view selections on the Num Pad. I hope the authors make the necessary corrections very soon. In the meantime I have decided to uninstall MSFS2024 and will try again next year.

Jim Morgan

Yeah, tried flying several planes in free flight. Head tracker works, getting some addons added back in from ORBX/Contrails etc are slowly trickling in.

But the glob spins furiously so I cant pick an airport. Odd bug.

The views, control settings are a mess. I spent and hour trying to delete a setting just to see it come back. Oi.

Most planes don't work, most scenery doesn't work sooo....looks like I will just head back to 2020 for the time being when Asobo can get their **** together.

None of us were surprised this would happen.

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12 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Yeah, tried flying several planes in free flight. Head tracker works, getting some addons added back in from ORBX/Contrails etc are slowly trickling in.

But the glob spins furiously so I cant pick an airport. Odd bug.

The views, control settings are a mess. I spent and hour trying to delete a setting just to see it come back. Oi.

Most planes don't work, most scenery doesn't work sooo....looks like I will just head back to 2020 for the time being when Asobo can get their **** together.

None of us were surprised this would happen.

It´s the Head Tracker that causes the spinning globe.

Try to look to at the center of Your monitor and then slightly move Your head to make it move back to center.

The farther away from center You look, the faster it will spin.

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18 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

None of us were surprised this would happen

We were called names for predicting that. 

Russell Gough

SE London

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15 hours ago, sloppysmusic said:

We were called names for predicting that. 

I am sure. Classic Asobo.

I mean, it can still be fun but for those of us that just to want to fly, its kind of frustrating. Oh well. Glad I kept everything on my 2020 install.

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37 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

I am sure. Classic Asobo.

I mean, it can still be fun but for those of us that just to want to fly, its kind of frustrating. Oh well. Glad I kept everything on my 2020 install.

Invest some time in setting up your peripherals properly. Everything you’re describing is related to that. Already some videos on YouTube showing how to do it, or wait a few more days for even more. 

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2 hours ago, JonathanC said:

Invest some time in setting up your peripherals properly. Everything you’re describing is related to that. Already some videos on YouTube showing how to do it, or wait a few more days for even more. 

Yeah, did all that. Simflighthanger and many more to help. Still had issues, not saving, all kinds of stuff. Think I will give it a rest and come back with then get it figured out better.

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What amuses me is people complaining about the new binding feature as if its so much worse than the 2020 version. Frankly both are poor compared to the system employed in XP11/12 in my opinion.

That said I don't mind the new binding system, its different but it works ok as far as I can tell.

 

3 hours ago, Sonosusto said:

Think I will give it a rest and come back with then get it figured out better.

Makes sense. Maybe you're running into some bug that's screwing around with your settings. 

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