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Back to MSFS 2020. I hate this stupid GUI

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I am very disappointed and angry.
First time since FS95 that I hate a flight simulator because of the dreadful GUI.
I'm gonna stop trying to understand the "logics" behind this piece of s...
5 hours spent and I still can't find the way to set views and to bind simple joystick buttons.
I will uninstall this poor piece of software and continue enjoying the beautiful MSFS 2020.
Flying 90% of the time liners, I don't care to see flowers and bees on the hills.

Let see if I can get a refund. If not, I will offer the 150$ spent to the poor Microsoft company, so they can publish an ad to hire a competent GUI manager.

And very honestly, there is no drastic evolution between the 2 simulators, just some cosmetic improvements here and there.
Nothing that justifies tearing one's hair out to set up basic functions and configure devices, especially when our efforts are punctuated by alerts concerning bandwidth and CTDs.

Long live MSFS 2020 !!!! 😄

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  • I understand your frustration; there is a learning curve. The quoted statement however is simply not true...

  • YES 😍 - and seems a good choice to go back to MSFS 2020, anybody can say what they want MSFS 2020 has now worked out ( over 4 years upating and improvings ) to a very fine and usfull Flightsimulator a

  • To this day, I have never, ever understood why it has been so difficult for Asobo not to have created a simple, straightforward camera system. You move your viewpoint to a required custom position via

9 minutes ago, David Roch said:

 

Long live MSFS 2020 !!!! 😄

YES 😍 - and seems a good choice to go back to MSFS 2020, anybody can say what they want MSFS 2020 has now worked out ( over 4 years upating and improvings ) to a very fine and usfull Flightsimulator and i assume if MSFS 2024 comes to this stage many years have to come in..

Glad i didn`t get it at yesterdays release 🫠

cheers ☺️

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Same here, spent a few hours trying to set up my controls without sucess, and I seemed to be suffering a lot of issues with the scenery, some floating, but mostly popping in and out. I requested a refund and was granted one within minutes. Maybe at some point in the future I will give 2024 another go, but for now 2020 will be more than adequate as I have all the controls and settings setup just great.

Ditto. Boy, am I glad that I didn't uninstall FS2020. I didn't request a refund, yet, but am contemplating to do so later today or tomorrow.

Kind regards,
Hans van WIjhe

 

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@David Roch,

Thanks for your review.

Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell  PP-ASEL KDTW

I’m also struggling with control assignments, particularly for cameras. 

I love the new UI

  

19 minutes ago, David Roch said:

just some cosmetic improvements here and there.

I guess you haven't actually flown the aircraft then.

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19 minutes ago, David Roch said:

And very honestly, there is no drastic evolution between the 2 simulators, just some cosmetic improvements here and there.

I understand your frustration; there is a learning curve. The quoted statement however is simply not true...

Cheers, Bert

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It is going to take some time to get used to this interface, it is not the most intuitive. But I assumed this was coming and that it would take a month or two of just basic default flights to learn my way around it. But, yea, it is a bit of a jump. Glad I am not trying to keep 2020 in my head at the same time, I think that would just make it a lot harder for me, trying to switch back and forth.

Right now I am just trying to figure out how to get rid of the co-pilot.

MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.

Also, why, why ,why is my GPU pegged at 99% when I am in the settings menu!

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2 minutes ago, chapstick said:

I was able to figure out bindings in a few minutes, not five hours. /shrug

Maybe are you young, and I am 66.
One day, you'll understand. For now, enjoy ! 🙂

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Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cognita said:

Also, why, why ,why is my GPU pegged at 99% when I am in the settings menu!

This has been pointed out to them all the way back since the 2020 alpha. Not sure why the regression

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4 minutes ago, Cognita said:

Also, why, why ,why is my GPU pegged at 99% when I am in the settings menu!

Because Asobo! 

They do strange things, they don't do obvious things, it's the Asobo way.

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32 minutes ago, David Roch said:

And very honestly, there is no drastic evolution between the 2 simulators, just some cosmetic improvements here and there.

Ouch... you can't be serious because this simply isn't true. Okay, it may not work for you (yet) but the things it adds in comparison to MSFS2020 are significant. The fact alone that I can cancel my Navigraph subscription now (in favor of better charts!) makes MSFS2024 better already, for me at least. Add to that things like a universal EFB, the option create control profiles for specific planes... no, it's not justy cosmetic.

2 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Maybe are you young, and I am 66.

I am 63 and I was binding control within seconds so... if I were you I'd forget about MSFS2024 for a few days and then check it out again after a week or so. This really and actually is a NEW sim in a lot of regards so it will take (quite some) time to get used to.

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