I’m actually interested in seeing reviews from a few people I trust (320SimPilot etc). I never used FSLabs before (the malware thing turned me off) but I know it was a very highly regarded plane back in the day. 
 

I’m curious to see where they stack up now in 2024. I’ve used FBW, Fenix, Ini, and Toliss extensively over the past 4 years, so I do want to know if these guys are really THAT amazing - or are they basically something like Toliss/Fenix. 

20 minutes ago, DavidP said:

I just updated using the Navigraph hub - no problems.

The SIM Airac update .. which is why the notion of blocking usage if the sim version changes due to its update is quite absurd.

1 hour ago, anden145 said:

Really? Sounds insane... Why would they do that?
DRM protection or something?

They always have done this - they lock the DLL behind a version check. Particularly frustrating when Lockheed would push a very very minor P3D v4 or v5 update and it'd brick the FSL for a few days.

3 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

I wish we had more Airbus addons

LOL, yeah we don't have enough already. I'll take a pass unless there's something jaw dropping over the Fenix.

15 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

Not everyone's coupling AP at 400 ft and follows the magenta (or green in that case) again, and again and again.....

Maybe you downloaded the LatinVFR A320ceo and confused it with the Fenix?
I do all kind of realistic hardcore simming pre-flight in in-flight preparation / management and there's *nothing* that I can't do in the Fenix. The only thing that's missing is a takeoff perf calculator that's obstacle-aware and shows the margin. If that's "A to B" for you then I don't know what to say. Feel free to point out features the FSL A320 in MSFS has which the Fenix does not

46 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

Purchased, installed in MSFS 2020.  Missing a lot of functionality that is present in the P3D version … I think this would be fine if promoted as a “lite” version for MSFS.  Still trying to find a feature in MSFS version that is not in the P3D version?

No regrets on spending $70, website was very slow so looks like interest is high.  The most complex aircraft for MSFS (as it was for P3D) … hope this works out for them and future development efforts.

 

You are contradicting yourself in those two paragraphs. It's "missing a lot of functionality" (examples maybe?) but yet is "the most complex aircraft for MSFS".

Just now, mspencer said:

They always have done this - they lock the DLL behind a version check. Particularly frustrating when Lockheed would push a very very minor P3D v4 or v5 update and it'd brick the FSL for a few days.

If they plan to do that with their products on this platform its a hard pass for me on ANY of their products. I'm not interested in waiting around for them to unlock stuff because of their paranoia. PMDG and Fenix do not do this and  I'm not bending over backwards to satisfy that requirement. I'm sure they don't care but luckily for me they they are not the only  product available.

If the policy is found to be false or plans to change ill take another look. until then good luck to them.

12 minutes ago, mspencer said:

They always have done this - they lock the DLL behind a version check. Particularly frustrating when Lockheed would push a very very minor P3D v4 or v5 update and it'd brick the FSL for a few days.

I think it’s because they hack memory dynamically to bypass what MSFS computes on a few aerodynamics vars like they did on P3D.

That’s why they are opted for legacy and not modern FM: they kept the same aero model.

As soon as MSFS is updated the adresses change and they have update the hack. 

As long as it works, am fine with that but yeah… not the most elegant path vis a vis Asobo.

39 minutes ago, ATRguy said:

What’s it missing?

Well since it still shares bugs from P3D enough said.

42 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

It depends on the type of flying you do. If its merely A to B then I tend to agree with you.

The Fenix is way more in depth than A to B. 🤷🏻‍♂️

3 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

Well since it still shares bugs from P3D enough said.

Oh, what have you found?

2 hours ago, Speedbird 217 said:

Just saw this posted on Reddit. That bodes well - so each time there’s an AIRAC update it renders the FSL unusable?! Thanks but no thanks.

 

 

I had to laugh at the wording of this..... 'MSFS is not yet compatible with FSL products'. Over to you Asobo - better update MSFS quick to make it compatible with FSL products! Tail wagging the dog? 

8 minutes ago, ATRguy said:

The Fenix is way more in depth than A to B. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Sure is. Better on the visual side as well.

on the FM, while making quite big strides since it’s initial release, it still falls short. Be it the way it settles on the runway, the drag at various altitude or the vnav calculations.

It’s not my intention here to bash the fenix, just trying to explain the additional value the new addon has to offer for some.

Add on top of that the service based failures that’s done to an unprecedented level, the gsx integration  - and you’ll see why some are willing to pay for that extra.

Its interesting how many are willing to drop the ceo but are keen on getting the neo. Between you and me… I wonder how many of those will be able to tell the difference between the two…

26 minutes ago, Irisha said:

That’s why they are opted for legacy and not modern FM: they kept the same aero model.

It runs in Legacy mode?

1 minute ago, ha5mvo said:

Add on top of that the service based failures that’s done to an unprecedented level, the gsx integration  - and you’ll see why some are willing to pay for that extra.

The Fenix has both. I'm confused.