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Another side-by-side 2020/2024 comparison

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22 hours ago, Ident said:

In this video, FS2020 stands out as looking more real than FS2024 in the night clip. Hope work on night lighting continues in MSFS2024.

That's funny I was 100% certain of the exact opposite--no context 2024 drastically better night lighting in that setting.

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On 12/23/2024 at 6:57 AM, David Roch said:

In terms of graphics, MSFS 2020 was a revolution, 2024 is a simple evolution pretty disappointing.

No disappointment here--this is fully anticipated.  I think a lot of what you refer to regarding "simple evolution" is a function of just how much performance demand is associated with taking something graphically revolutionary and improving it further graphically such that it's very obvious.  For example despite the alleged polygon density increased by a factor of up to 4000x you're not necessarily going to notice this until you get closer to objects. Same triple same for cloud depiction, only way worse since it fully 3D thru and thru.   Just listening to those 2024 users who operate the sim within its current capabilities it's pretty clear to me it's a substantial improvement, again in line with expectations, so no disappointment whatsoever.   Back in Pentium 386 Pro and Voodoo Graphics two years down the road could double resolution which was obvious....because the starting point was so poor.  Not the case nowadays in sim world.  In fact unless we come up with a totally new 3D voxel model we won't see clouds that look like this for many years or a decade+ to come:

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On 12/23/2024 at 12:05 PM, Huascar said:

The lighting and details are superior in MSFS 2004. Unfortunately, graphics means nothing if 2024 is plagued with bugs and issues. 

Couldn't disagree more. I see the great graphics all the time but bugs some of the time.

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29 minutes ago, Noel said:

That's funny I was 100% certain of the exact opposite--no context 2024 drastically better night lighting in that setting.

The reason why I say that, (and I dont know which airport this is so lamp post and light positions will be key) is that the terminal roofs seem way to bright in the 2024 where in the 2020 on, the ground around the gates are lit but not the whole building, evenly, and brightly like in 2024. Also the blue and green taxi lights are way to bright in 2024 compared to the 2020 which I feel best reflects RL. Airports at night are more a dark spot then not. Now outside the airport fence line then yeah, 2024 looks better.

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22 hours ago, btacon said:

in this case the reviewer is 100% spot

I have only just seen this video and was quite surprised, because I haven't seen any of those bugs in my sim.  First two days were bad and then a single day of graphical glitches. Since then I have had ctd's but nothing else.

 

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On 12/23/2024 at 12:43 PM, tpete61 said:

Just what we need!

Have we reached 100 yet for comparisons posts comparing 2020 to 2024, they all seem like nonsense. Fly the one you like!

As I've repeated before, this is just YouTube Clickbait garbage. Yawn! Apparently this person as an expert on the games environments!

Won't waste my time watching but many of these comparisons mean nothing because many of us have different computer systems and have the game settings setup differently.

 

Your posts remind me of this:

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I will get MSFS2024 eventually. I suppose the tide of progress is unstoppable, especially given that Asobo appears to be invested in this project. 

2020 was a big step up - but that wasn't hard because flight SIM was stuck in the Jurassic period - but kudos to Asobo because they saved the genre from extinction ultimately.

2024 is a small incremental step, and as I see it the only real improvements of significant note is the lighting and tesselation - which frankly is not even revolutionary but just bringing this into the modern standards of PC gaming.

The rest is lacking mostly

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FYI : left is MSFS 2024

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15 minutes ago, GSalden said:

FYI : left is MSFS 2024

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5 hours ago, GSalden said:

FYI : left is MSFS 2024

No. It's not. He switched them from the thumbnail. Said so in the comments.

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37 minutes ago, Huascar said:

Left

Read the comments. He said the right one is 24 and he swapped the thumbnail as a tease.

Edit: the giveaway is the cracks on the runway. That's a 24 thing I've noticed.

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17 hours ago, hanhamreds said:

 

2024 is a small incremental step, and as I see it the only real improvements of significant note is the lighting and tesselation 

Can I add the vegetation.. it adds to the overall experience.. 🙂

Bert

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