2 hours ago, El Diablito said:

With all due respect, this isn't "sit at the window as a passenger simulator". Although the sounds are fantastic, the very point you are making would make me think twice about buying this pack. At a guess I would say 99% of us spend takeoff in the cockpit.

I think though that the improved sounds are a lot better than PMDG's own sounds. For example for some strange reason when PMDG re-made their 737 line for MSFS from P3D they changed the trim sounds. And I have to say that their P3D sounds for the trim were so much more real. This one that is currently in the 737 is just not how the real one sounds at all. Especially when one only trims a short burst, the trim barely sounds and I think it's a bit off. But this sound pack seem to do a lot better job. One single word that would best describe this pack is that it is a lot closer to real life than PMDG's one.

What I meant to say previously is that in the F/D you can only hear so much of the plane. I think many people would be surprised how little you hear from your engines, fuel pumps, hydraulics especially during flight from in the flight deck. On the ground with the F/D door open and L1 door open you hear of course more but it is not that much as some sound packs or PMDG's would make you believe. I think though this sound pack is quite good apart from the engine noise I have explained and not wishing to elaborate on any further to avoid heavy opinions here 😅

3 minutes ago, Balint Szarka said:

I think though that the improved sounds are a lot better than PMDG's own sounds. For example for some strange reason when PMDG re-made their 737 line for MSFS from P3D they changed the trim sounds. And I have to say that their P3D sounds for the trim were so much more real. This one that is currently in the 737 is just not how the real one sounds at all. Especially when one only trims a short burst, the trim barely sounds and I think it's a bit off. But this sound pack seem to do a lot better job. One single word that would best describe this pack is that it is a lot closer to real life than PMDG's one.

What I meant to say previously is that in the F/D you can only hear so much of the plane. I think many people would be surprised how little you hear from your engines, fuel pumps, hydraulics especially during flight from in the flight deck. On the ground with the F/D door open and L1 door open you hear of course more but it is not that much as some sound packs or PMDG's would make you believe. I think though this sound pack is quite good apart from the engine noise I have explained and not wishing to elaborate on any further to avoid heavy opinions here 😅

The day I bought the PMDG 737 for MSFS, I complained about the trim sounds which were nonexistent pretty much. It is still that way. The trim sound in P3D was much more realistic. 

Just now, Bobsk8 said:

The day I bought the PMDG 737 for MSFS, I complained about the trim sounds which were nonexistent pretty much. It is still that way. The trim sound in P3D was much more realistic. 

Couldn't agree any more 😉 I don't know why they felt the urge to change things that were actually good. They should rather focus on fixing things that were carried over since the NGX from early P3D days. Many of which are still present in the MSFS version.

1 hour ago, Balint Szarka said:

Couldn't agree any more 😉 I don't know why they felt the urge to change things that were actually good. They should rather focus on fixing things that were carried over since the NGX from early P3D days. Many of which are still present in the MSFS version.

If the sound pack we are discussing, fixes the trim sound, I  will buy it just for that. BTW, I just posted this topic on  the PMDG 737 forum. Curious to see how that goes....😉

Edited January 19, 20251 yr by Bobsk8

What do you mean by "trim" sound?

 

 From the cockpit.

Doesn't seem to be much difference in F/D sound from the default PMDG. 

Yeah. Having to buy more realistic sounds for some planes that are already expensive as it is? Not for me. Especially since I am getting the wasm/left yoke/everything dark bug again.

Think PMDG is getting a pass from me for a long time. Usually not bitter about stuff but knowing that there are better sounds for premium planes that I paid 60+ dollars for? Not cool at all.

Too Long Didn't Read: why aren;t these premium sounds released with the product that still has bugs?

Virtually every other payware plane I own has none of these issues.

I don’t know if this is a MSFS thing, but as a long time P3D user the biggest disappointment to me when flying the MSFS pmdg 737 is the sound in the flight deck where I spend 99% of my sim time. 
 

If just the ambient sound in the cockpit is the same as the latest videos, I will be very happy. To me the present cockpit sound is awful and if I follow the recommended across the board 100% volume settings the engines are way too loud.

10 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Doesn't seem to be much difference in F/D sound from the default PMDG. 

I do not hear such a massive difference in sounds that would convince me to part with more money. It is interesting to note that the transition to those "buzzsaw" sounds when the engines are spooling up (from the wing view) is a bit more realistic in the PMDG sounds.

14 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

 

I don't know which is more realistic, but the ambient cockpit noise with the Boris sounds is more... relaxing.

Compare 4:00 to 4:30

I’m also one who sticks to the flight deck, and I’m not sure the improvements there are worth parting with any cash. Tbth, unsure if they’re even improvements or just different.

I've just asked my friend - he is the FO  flying 737-800 (Ryanair). He wrote (it's translated from our native language):

"I’ve listened to both (cockpit sounds on ground), and they both have some shortcomings. The PMDG ones are generally too loud and have a hissing/whistling quality, while Boris’s sounds are deeper and more booming. As for the clicking sounds (Boris), sometimes they don’t quite match up, but it’s also hard to replicate the real sound of clicking switches. Here, they sometimes sound hollow, but when you’re actually flipping switches, you’re holding them, which changes the sound of the action. Still, Boris’s soundset is pretty good overall. I feel Boris's sounds more real than PMDG one."

Edited January 20, 20251 yr by AdiR

On 1/19/2025 at 9:34 PM, Balint Szarka said:

I think though that the improved sounds are a lot better than PMDG's own sounds. For example for some strange reason when PMDG re-made their 737 line for MSFS from P3D they changed the trim sounds. And I have to say that their P3D sounds for the trim were so much more real. This one that is currently in the 737 is just not how the real one sounds at all. Especially when one only trims a short burst, the trim barely sounds and I think it's a bit off. But this sound pack seem to do a lot better job. One single word that would best describe this pack is that it is a lot closer to real life than PMDG's one.

What I meant to say previously is that in the F/D you can only hear so much of the plane. I think many people would be surprised how little you hear from your engines, fuel pumps, hydraulics especially during flight from in the flight deck. On the ground with the F/D door open and L1 door open you hear of course more but it is not that much as some sound packs or PMDG's would make you believe. I think though this sound pack is quite good apart from the engine noise I have explained and not wishing to elaborate on any further to avoid heavy opinions here 😅

Cheers, Balint. Thanks for the info. Best.