So sad ! hope they will find a solution, at least to keep latest timeschedules and airborn traffic (offline).

16 hours ago, pmplayer said:

hope they find another way where we have no coast..

I hope they find ways where we have a lot of coast... 😀

Edited April 19Apr 19 by turbomax

7 hours ago, Bdub22 said:

Bob, I don't think you can say "actually there is" when the "solution" you listed costs 9 bucks a month. I know it's not a lot of money, but the original item was and is.... free. I don't view those similarly. 

The cost for continued use of FR24 would be much much higher as the opening post lines out. $20 per flight? That'll end up with something like $250 a month.

 

But I'll give you one thing: PSXT will give you live traffic, but it is traffic that exists only visually. It does not talk to the sim atc or any other injector. The aircraft simply do what they do in real life without taking the user into account.

 

That's not a substitute for any other injected traffic. 

Sorry if I'm missing something but, what is wrong with the default injected live traffic?

19 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

Actually, there is: PSXT (free) + RealTraffic (~$9/mo)

And it's much much better than FSLTL for traffic coverage plus it doesn't use the ai engine of the sim. 

1 hour ago, KERNEL32 said:

Sorry if I'm missing something but, what is wrong with the default injected live traffic?

I always found it pretty lacking as in not many aircraft in the skies, whereas FSLTL you could properly adjust how many you want to see/your PC can handle + it had GA.

I'm looking into an alternative that has a decent mix of GA & Airline, PSXT requires a license so that's a no go and GAMOD as - good as it is - needs to be run in Offline mode (I'd rather be Live).

 

Dumb question - "the injector stays static aircraft only" - does this mean static schedules, or just a/c parked?

Anyway any good, free alternatives?  I've never used AIG but I'm guessing that's probably it.  I mostly use BATC anyway so that will continue to work, but sometimes I like to just start up a flight and launch some traffic without a flight plan.  FSLTL was perfect for that. 

Edited April 19Apr 19 by kerosene31

4 hours ago, Farlis said:

But I'll give you one thing: PSXT will give you live traffic, but it is traffic that exists only visually. It does not talk to the sim atc or any other injector. The aircraft simply do what they do in real life without taking the user into account.

It is also on your TCAS.

Lots of users are not interested in artificial ATC voices.

PSXT traffic is controlled by real live ATC. In some countries you can listen to that live.

And yes, as a user you have to take the real traffic into account, not the other way round.  That's the fun, to fly in the real world.

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, kiek said:

And yes, as a user you have to take the real traffic into account, not the other way round.  That's the fun, to fly in the real world.

In the real world that is what ATC is for. Using PSXT for traffic is like flying VATSIM without controllers and a broken radio.

 

I used it for about a year, during the time when BATC was not available and the live traffic in the sim was broken. But since both are available now, I don't any longer.

23 hours ago, MrLamb said:

The above **DOES NOT** impact FSLTL Base Models.

Does this mean FSLTL can still supply models to BATC presumably? 

BATC with FSLTL models is enough for me, but this is a bummer. 

19 minutes ago, Noel said:

Does this mean FSLTL can still supply models to BATC presumably? 

Of course

21 minutes ago, RobJC said:

BATC with FSLTL models is enough for me, but this is a bummer. 

As mentioned before I've recently gone back to using FSLTL's injection w/ BATC for ATC, for reasons stated and have been happier with that, so bummer for me as well on this.

Just now, Noel said:

As mentioned before I've recently gone back to using FSLTL's injection w/ BATC for ATC, for reasons stated and have been happier with that, so bummer for me as well on this.

Yeah i remember you posting about it. I agree the movement of the planes in FSLTL were butter smooth, and i saw a lot more traffic everywhere with it. But i missed the ATC interaction so i just use the models. Still a great combo.

Definitely a bummer hearing this news. 

Can one use RealTraffic without PSXT?  On the RealTraffic website, there are two use scenarios, outlined for use with MSFS.  The first example is where the RealTraffic is delivered into the sim by PSXT.   Then there's a second use case, where the "RealTraffic App" delivers the traffic .... but the diagram is confusing because PSXT is still shown on it.

I'd love some GA traffic in 2024. It's the single only thing I miss from SI.   But I have no interest in using PSXT.

Sadly Corsten's "GAMOD" doesn't work at all for me, and absolutely tanks performance (even while not showing any traffic!)

Edited April 19Apr 19 by JYW