Just purchased and made use of the launch promo discount, now it's time to see how well it performs ^_^

 

I NEVER fly into Canada but I couldn't resist buying this. I guess I'll be getting FlyTampa airport too when it's released.

You'll have to go to the Avsim DX10 forum, Mike. Grab the "How-To" doc, and read it a couple of times. It's far too deep for me to attempt to give a precis` of what has taken us five months to learn! No - it's most definitley the other way - it gives back lots of frames.

 

Incidentally - the NGX works fine, too.

 

All the Best,

 

Wil do. Thanks for the direction. I actually do not use ORBX very much. I mostly fly SimSavvy photo scenery and I don't have these issues.

 

EDIT: Paul, I see that you are the author. Thanks for al your work on this!

I purchased FSDT CYVR instantly- never bothered with the demo - the screenshots alone were enough and bonus- a discount too! I must compliment Virtualli, he has done it again, and taken us to an entirely new level! I could even see the Burger King through the concourse windows from my cockpit! How cool is that? Pretty cool!

 

I do recommend IOBIT's Razer Game Booster which is a free game launching program that has received some good notices on CNet's download.com and does a couple of things I especially find helpful:

• Kills unneeded Windows processes that eat CPU processing slices.
  
• Then flushes system RAM prior to launching the game - releasing max memory to FSX
  
• Automatically kills the screensaver until you close FSX and Game Booster exits its special Windows power setting and returns your PC back to whatever Windows Power Setting you have it set for. This alone makes it very appealing to me. I use Game Booster to launch any application where I don't want my system going into hybrid sleep mode (examples: FSX, DVD Player Software, etc).
  
• Can optimize Windows settings for faster shutdowns and other performance enhancements.
  

Given the amount of system resources we need to run FSX plus all the associated detailed planes, AI and scenery packs, to me, any software that can "unload" system resources and allow FSX to use them - is worthwhile. OOMs are rare (though come to think of it I have heard the FSUIPC OOM-alert sound a few times lately) and considering the weight of the many add-ons, FSX runs smoothly.

 

One other thought that helped me... forget the frames per second... what do your EYES tell you? Are your flights smooth and artifact-free, or are you suffering with jaggies, stutters, artifacts and crashes?

 

I think of FSX as a symphony orchestra, comprised of the underlying Microsoft code, then all the layers and plug-ins and hardware control surfaces.

 

Given all that (see My Flight Simulator link at left) it's incredible that FSX runs as well as it does - and in 32-bit code with the 4GB max memory limit. With 16GB of system ram inside my box, it feels wrong to still be waiting on 64-bit versions of XPlane X and FSX/Prepar3d.

 

I know ORBX is working on their upcoming "world textures" release - but what makes FSX shine for me are the enhanced airports from FSDreamteam and Flightbeam Studios. They are far superior to the default airports of FSX. Generally speaking, I fly only between enhanced airports, and the only time I see FSX Default airports is because FSInn ATC online controllers are working in an airspace where no upgraded airports are installed on my system.

Thanks Dave I dont think you should be doing this in windows7 - Paul I didn't see VC shadows in NGX is this true ?

Hmm, interesting. Can anyone shed more light on this. I was always under the impression that DX10 Preview was a framrate killer. Any comments.

I've always seen much better FPS with DX10. The obvious frustration is that certain add-on developers do not have their products optimized for DX10, and some of my custom AI aircraft just show up white. I don't blame them since Microsoft never followed up on anything after SP2.

 

:lol: He was lucky!! DX10 is not the fix-all for many folks, and, whereas it will better your chances of not getting an OOM - the real answer is to ensure clean, separate, custom VAS and do that desktop heap fix, close off anything else that's running and taking up precious memory, and wind back the known memory hogs, like cloud distance, LOD and traffic.

DX10 just gives you some more (system memory) headroom and in some respects, a better-looking sim.

I thought I had a very clean system, and I also thought it had enough RAM to run all those packages simultaneously. I might revert back to DX9 to see what else I can clean up.

Ok Guys I think I found a nice trade off a lot of people probably do not want to do it but I don't see much of a difference to warrant bad fps I am using REX latest I turned down 3d clouds and cirrus clouds to 512 x 512 Resolution big difference using this scenery I think its something you might want to try oh and my OC on my graphics card did help cant believe it but it does must be this new 680 its a beast.

Flying in DX10 mode certainly does reduce the chances of an OOM in extremely detailed areas, but it does not eliminate it. I have had at least two OOM errors when flying in DX10 mode around London. There is just so much data to process with VFR London X, UK2000 Heathrow/Gatwick/London City Xtreme, Treescapes autogen, FSX Power Project pylons, and UT2 AI @ 100%. In fact, I can still get OOMs with half of that scenery disabled!! Yes, I could significantly reduce the amount of AI, but who wants large airports populated with only a handful of airliners? Another downside is that FSX does not seem to be capable of running in DX10 mode with the AA and AF settings that I use in DX9 mode (8xS AA, 4x SGSS, and 16x AF). Texture shimmering is far more evident when running with DX10.

 

As someone else has already mentioned, all of these problems would vanish if FSX could run in full 64bit mode. Framerates really are not the single, most important issue anymore.

I too remember the monster shimmy I encountered when I experimented with DX10 preview mode. Of course what we ALL need is Direct X 11 plus 64-bit FSX and add-ons that are compatible with DX11 -and- 64-bit OS. Likely will be XPlane X at some point, less likely for Prepar3d and of course out of the question for FSX itself as development has ended.

Virtualli posted in the FSDT forums a bunch of memory tests. After all said and done CYVR only takes up about 500mb. DX10 saves 300mb and disabling HD textures another 200mb. The NGX takes 800mb! Just some FYI to help with troubleshooting.

 

Its on this page about 4th post down.

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=7842.15

OOM error on my first flight into CYVR using ORBX and the Aerosoft bus. Sadly I think we are pushing against a concrete wall with these add-ons, and while talented developers are able to extend what used to be possible with scenery design, we are still limited by the inherent issues in the framework we have to play within. Very frustrating when all your time is spent trying to fix problems, or in many cases merely trying to find work-arounds, to muster up a single enjoyable flight. There has always been much talk about things that drive developers away from the hobby. It's these issues that are driving me, and many others, away from the hobby.

There has always been much talk about things that drive developers away from the hobby. It's these issues that are driving me, and many others, away from the hobby.

 

My thoughts exactly... Flight simulation would be growing with new users and healthy if we had a stable platform.... This is the biggest barrier to the hobby and I personally believe it is keeping thousands of people away from it. If we aren't careful, we will be the ones who let the hobby slowly fade into the past.

My thoughts exactly... Flight simulation would be growing with new users and healthy if we had a stable platform.... This is the biggest barrier to the hobby and I personally believe it is keeping thousands of people away from it. If we aren't careful, we will be the ones who let the hobby slowly fade into the past.

 

Totally agree....

 

 

I know three of my friends, used to be simmers, have given it up because of trouble with CTD's, OOM's, etc etc...

 

You can say they where "hardcore simmers lite", but when the fun part of "simming" are gone, they left it.......

 

If we could get an more stable platform, i'm sure many simmers would come back and our community would grow again...

 

Just my Thoughts

OK fine, so you prefer to have no addons at all, or only bad quality addons, which take minimal resources, so only that you can cramp up your FSX with hundreds of them?

I fail to see the need for that (offensive?) statement, Word Not Allowed. :mellow:

 

I didn't see anyone demanding bad addons, or default FSX or a 'cramped' setup. My guess is that a guy running UTX, Orbx and perhaps Vancouver V3 isn't filling his sim up with any kind of bad software, but actually nice one. The only problem arising from combining that sort of quality together with fancy addon planes could be an oom situation.

 

The last addon, in this case a great airport, might then lead over the tipping point. Not in all cases, fortunately.

 

That's what the folks did care about and the single addon dev isn't to blame, but the, now, aged basis is. That 32bit code doesn't allow for much more. With P3D, it's the same.

 

And I would agree that it can be frustrating to to try to run all the nice addons together and being unable to land or takeoff because the sim crashed. I also agree that the sheer fear on receiving a crashing sim harms the sales. Agreed? :Peace:

Absolutely. Seems like we've already reached the level where we may have to trade one fine addon for another, or just the settings.

 

Besides, I'm glad Umberto and his team offer the demo mode. So one can at least check how much of an impact the scenery gives and even those few minutes may allow for a quick loading of the favourite plane.

Yea strange that some users have ooms with orbox sceneries etc where i have been lucky so far only had 1 ooom and that was flying into ymml which is a fp killer for me had all my settings to max though now i just slid down the auto gen down abit and havnt had any ooms. So far testing the cyvr with the ngx orbox and rexe as well and still up in the 30fps. This is with only the basic tweaks from scratch using the standard tweaks given in the ngx manual so nothing else