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Biggest disappointments - 2014

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It's that time of year again.  What sim software were your greatest disappointments for last year?  Here's mine:

 

  • Orbx W16 Monroe First Air - far too heavy on VAS.
  • Carenado PC12 - the community did A LOT of work to get it right and there are still issues.  I find it uninspiring.

 

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At first I was going to say that it was not winning the lottery again but I see you narrowed this to FS addons.  I was actually pretty happy with my purchases in 2014.  I think I was more dissapointed in what I did not see released in 2014....Ground Services X is one that comes to mind, ORBX North America LC is another.

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OK, the PC12 has issues, I agree. But it is a $40 piece of software. You can not expect perfection in every regard for something that is a minor charge item in the real world. Personally, I think the PC12 is wonderful, and worth every penny spent on it.

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Try Realair and you see that $40 can in fact bring you perfection. Biggest disappointment for me had to be BlackBox Airbus series.

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I think I was more dissapointed in what I did not see released in 2014

 

That's also more like I feel. Still no FSL A320 and Aerosoft CRJ. Well, maybe 2015. :smile:

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 Drzewiecki Design New York airports. Even at the sale price its a flop and Im thinking they must have farmed this scenery out or they just forgot to test it or both

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Aerosoft CRJ

 

This one is/has been in beta for a few weeks. I don't work for Aerosoft and I'm no psychic, but I'd expect it before Q1 is over.

 

For me, I think it would be the Razbam Metroliner. It looked great in preview shots, but for me personally it's hard on resources and locks up any time I try to fly it. Was very excited for it to come out but when I bought it, I just couldn't use it.

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Personally, I think the PC12 is wonderful, and worth every penny spent on it.

 

Agree.  

 

My biggest disappointments for 2014 would probably be Drzwiecki EETN and New York Airports .... poor performance on my machine (Drzwiecki products seem to be getting heavier and heavier on resources .... the Polish Airports series were great visually, and performance wise, EETN is not really any better visually (the photographic surrounding area is pretty lo-fi), yet performance is so much worse).

 

and secondly, the Carenado Piper Seneca V HD, which I just find characterless, unconvincing, with poor sounds, and just not very immersive.

 

....I have to say that on the whole though, Carenado/Alabeo have really stepped up in 2014 and have released some of their best products to date.

 

Of course there were certainly worse addons than these in 2014 (..cough... Wilco) but I wouldn't have expected anything better from those, whereas the above I had higher hopes for.

 

However, 99% of addons I bought in 2014 were fantastic and continued the enjoyment of this super hobby.   :smile:

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However, 99% of addons I bought in 2014 were fantastic and continued the enjoyment of this super hobby. :smile:

 

I'd agree with that.  While Orbx W16 was not good, I bought a lot of Orbx stuff in 2014 and, by and large, it was at least good...some of it very good.  Hobby Field, Orcas Island, Darrington, Monterrey, Jackson Hole, Bozeman, Redding...and many more.

 

In terms of Carenado, I bought 3...Malibu Mirage (outstanding), PC12 and the C340 (okay). 

 

The many other things I got...ASN, airports from FlightBeam, Taxi2Gate, LatinVFR...all, pretty much, very good or excellent.

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For me the biggest disappointment of 2014 was FlyTampa Copenhagen. Practically unflyable due to performance problems.

I know some say they had no problems with it but others, including me, did. The brand of FT no more means the same to me.

 

I am also disappointed with iFly 747's quite poor performance (low FPS) though in other aspects it is really an awesome simulation.

I also see a rather bad tendency at Drzewiecki Design as their Polish Airports were so great compared to later UEEE or NY.

Yes, also some things that are coming slowly, with several of them mentioned in earlier posts. But for years of simming I have learned patience.

 

But all in all, as some also pointed out above, it was a great FS year, as all the other purchases I made did not let me down.

I hope the 2015 will also be a great FS time. With things to come like e.g. FB EDDF, EPWA, ZBAA, YSSY, CRJ, A330 or FSL A320 (cough cough)...

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I will chime in here only to be barked at. I paid the regular price fro P3Dv2 and now some of my favorite add ons are either dragging there feet getting them to cross. Never did I dream I would have to pay an annual price for the use of something I purchase, when on the other platform it is a flat fee. I do not charge, let anyone else use, or profit in any way from my use of P3D.

Greg I agree with you on the Carenado issue. I have watched the incoming thread for so long now it has become a daily activity to check and see it the Citation or the XP are out.

Bark if you shall, these are just my opinions. Capt. McGill, R. J. USN Retired.

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Hmmmm, MS-FLIGHT haven't yet been announced as the next major release by Dovetail Games, although Stonelance is doing Wonders for it :-)

 

For the time being, I am glad that FSX SE is now available trough Steam - excellent platform, even if I only used it for MS FLIGHT (  a couple of DLCs ), Aerofly FS 1, and li-2 Cliffs of Dover... and now FSX SE :-)

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Far be it from me to harangue, harass, belittle, besmirch or otherwise embarrass our fine membership here... Ah what the hell, sure I will!!! Guys!!! This is what the Member Reviews are for! Buy that product and share your experience with others in our Reviews section. That way, you can get your impressions of the product noted, allow your fellow users to read yours and they can reply with theirs in a system that makes it easy to find those reviews by thousands of your fellow members. Come on! Take 20 minutes to write up a review and share it with your fellow simmers so that they are fairly warned or encouraged, whichever the case may be!

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I will chime in here only to be barked at. I paid the regular price fro P3Dv2 and now some of my favorite add ons are either dragging there feet getting them to cross. Never did I dream I would have to pay an annual price for the use of something I purchase, when on the other platform it is a flat fee.

Okay, now I'm intrigued. What product charges an "annual fee" for use in Prepar3Dv2?

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Well, i was expecting more from metroliner too, but definitelly the biggest disappointment for me are blackbox airbus series. I purchased their A320 to have some decent airbus until FSLabs release, at that time there was no aerosoft new airbus. I didn't know thier history at that time. I find their model worse then many freeware aircrafts. I know that is supposed to be a work in progress, but most of us are still waiting to see any progress...

 

I don't want to criticize any company, but there are a couple them i decided in 2014 to just ignore them. I'll never buy anything else from them before SP1, SP2 and SP3 are released, and there are at least 2 reviews on AVSIM and some other FS related websites that claims this is something realy great, plenty of people happy with product in different forums, and also not before at least 2 friends tests and recommend me that product. Maybe i'll make some review of this products when i have time, but i can't promise, becouse i like to concentrate on positive things  :lol:

 

FlyTampa is still at the top for me, EKCH is not 100% their work from what i know, and that area is hard on FPS in FSX anyway. 

 

I belive Aerosoft CRJ is a very close to release, FSLabs BETA testing has probably started, and i really can't wait to put my hands on their Airbus

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I paid the regular price fro P3Dv2 and now some of my favorite add ons are either dragging there feet getting them to cross.

I agree Capt. It has been a bit strange watching the Dev folks dance around the P3D bonfire as though they were looking for devine guidance from the God of Flight Simulators. I am sure they must have some valid reasons for this strange behavior that us everyday mortals would never understand. Their seems to be many of us who have removed on to P3D and cleaned the FSX A-Z from the computers. We also seem to be the part of the community willing to "pay the freight" for new goodies to feed our Flight Sim passions. Very strange to me!!

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Biggest disappointment for me had to be BlackBox Airbus series.

 

Why people continue to purchase and support them is mind boggling. They have 2 unfinished products out and are developing yet another (A340). How about finishing one first? My biggest disappointment would be people continuing to support any developers releasing a unfinished product. It makes for bad business and a bad trend in FS. I realize we all want things now but they peddle to the impatient while promising the world.

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Okay, now I'm intrigued. What product charges an "annual fee" for use in Prepar3Dv2?

 

Thats what i was wondering too.....

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Why people continue to purchase and support them is mind boggling. They have 2 unfinished products out and are developing yet another (A340). How about finishing one first? My biggest disappointment would be people continuing to support any developers releasing a unfinished product. It makes for bad business and a bad trend in FS. I realize we all want things now but they peddle to the impatient while promising the world.

I should have been more clear. I do not own any Blackbox add on for the same reasons you mention. I had an interest on the A330 but at their development rate I'll wait for Aerosoft's offering.

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mostly diappointed with CSL1011....downloaded, installed and boom...crashes FSX each time i try to use it...ticket with captainsim and status is always pending for review by developer....

 

emann

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My biggest disappointment would be people continuing to support any developers releasing a unfinished product. It makes for bad business and a bad trend in FS. I realize we all want things now but they peddle to the impatient while promising the world.

Here here! I got burnt with Airsimmer's A320 and the DA F100 VC years ago, and learnt my lesson. Purchase based on what the product is now, not what you're told/hope it will be in 12 months, irrespective of any discounts offered to entice you.

 

Sadly, the FS addon industry has earned a reputation for overdue underdelivery on products released before full completion.

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Not related to 2014, but biggest disappointment over years in flight simming, that is still ringing in my ears is a purchase of FlyLogic Switzerland X for around hundred bucks! The ugliest scenery all around, as I said numerous times before. Used it for few days when I bought it and couldn't stand the colours  of photo textures anymore.

 

Also biggest disappointment in 2014 is Aerosoft A318/319, on par with original AXE. I bought it with huge expectations that FPS is better with no stutters, but... still so hard on frames on my system, worse performance than NGX easily, with even more pronounced stutters. Tried various support and fixes, nothing helped, even a tiny bit (starting with weather radar fix). I'm, so happy with NGX luckily, so I don't have to bang my head over Aerosoft Airbus anymore.

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