You Can't Go Back

[Nyxx 6,993]

20 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

. I am one satisfied flight simmer now, after struggling for dozens of years trying to reach a point that I was happy with. Nothing else needed for me. 

Thats wonderfull to hear Bob.

I cannot even bring myself to work out how much I spent on addon for P3D. But its all in the passed. The last few day I am enjoying the CJ4 with v10 of mod, and that I am enjoying that as much as I did my beloved FSL A320. With My PC now balanced with my GPU its a wonderfull thing. Dev's that do interviews monthy and give updates and on going work all the time. Personly I could not ask for more. Well for them to not make silly mistakes but hey we all do. The only down side for me about this sim is this forum. P3D Community was wonderful unlike...

Edited February 23, 2021 by Nyxx

[Bobsk8 12,728]

1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

. The only down side for me about this sim is this forum. P3D Community was wonderful unlike...

Reminds me of the MS Flight forum years back. 

[edpatino 1,964]

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

One sim to rule them all, one sim to find them. One sim to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. In the land of Microsoft, where the shadows lie...

Something to think about if you start seeing the Lidless Eye in your dreams

Matter of taste, nobody will ever rule your own taste.

Cheers, Ed

[Will Fly For Cheese 1,710]

20 hours ago, DAD said:

Is that cloudy question mark is pure coincidence I assume?

Wow, I genuinely hadn't noticed that DAD. That is weird. . .and quite possibly coincidental!

Spooky . . .

 

[Elvensmith 165]

It's a funny thing you know, but last night I fancied taking a 777 for a spin (watching out for RHS engine fires  ). Decided to fire up FSX, not a payware aircraft, something I picked up from a VA I briefly belonged to.

The first thing with FSX was having to engage screen magnifier to see the tiny, tiny unscaleable menu font on a 4K monitor. Flight set up and running, drop in the 777 cockpit - switch to F9 and no textures, everything just white. Back to the 2D view which occupies two thirds of the screen with the panel. External view also just all white - the age old DirectX issue again I guess. Taxi out to the active, everything is flat as a pancake. Engines spool up, not very impressive or jet like TBH. Airborne and climbing to altitude, the world below looks like a flat chequerboard with the same terrain pattern repeating itself into the distance. Nice clouds, but that's about all.

Admittedly I never got round to reinstalling FS Global or FScene which might have added a better mesh (I was taking off from Kiev in the Ukraine and heading north). I'm now about to try the same flight in MSFS and expect the visual and aural delights will be much improved.

So despite having been a sceptic, yes I admit there really is no going back to FSX and seriously considering just uninstalling the whole shebang. If only we could get some more tubeliners into MSFS for those of us who enjoy the big iron...

Edited February 27, 2021 by Elvensmith

[GSalden 4,657]

48 minutes ago, Elvensmith said:

It's a funny thing you know, but last night I fancied taking a 777 for a spin (watching out for RHS engine fires  ). Decided to fire up FSX, not a payware aircraft, something I picked up from a VA I briefly belonged to.

The first thing with FSX was having to engage screen magnifier to see the tiny, tiny unscaleable menu font on a 4K monitor. Flight set up and running, drop in the 777 cockpit - switch to F9 and no textures, everything just white. Back to the 2D view which occupies two thirds of the screen with the panel. External view also just all white - the age old DirectX issue again I guess. Taxi out to the active, everything is flat as a pancake. Engines spool up, not very impressive or jet like TBH. Airborne and climbing to altitude, the world below looks like a flat chequerboard with the same terrain pattern repeating itself into the distance. Nice clouds, but that's about all.

Admittedly I never got round to reinstalling FS Global or FScene which might have added a better mesh (I was taking off from Kiev in the Ukraine and heading north). I'm now about to try the same flight in MSFS and expect the visual and aural delights will be much improved.

So despite having been a sceptic, yes I admit there really is no going back to FSX and seriously considering just uninstalling the whole shebang. If only we could get some more tubeliners into MSFS for those of us who enjoy the big iron...

FSX was released in 2006....   

I abandoned FSX 11 years ago, long before MSFS....

Edited February 27, 2021 by GSalden

[Nm2far 1]

On 2/22/2021 at 2:32 AM, BillC said:

I go back to FSX every time I want to fly big-tin IFR in a true study level airliner because I simply can't do that in MSFS (yet). For VFR it's MSFS every time. Horses for courses for the time being.

I’m having the same conundrum. MSFS newbie, and recently retired airline pilot, just wanting to chair fly a realistic gate to gate profile for nostalgia and not atrophy a lifelong skill set. I bought a gaming computer, stick and throttle and FS2020. Love the graphics but  completely underwhelmed at the lack of functionality of AP, FMS, MCDU on the airliners, and no PMDG plug-ins for the foreseeable future. 
 

I also have the old FSX Steam version without any plug-ins on another computer, and am thinking I might be better served for my purposes by downloading it to my new computer and buying a PMDG 747-400 module. Realistic graphics are nice but I can live with something as simple as the FMS desktop procedures trainers we used to have at work. For the time being it seems like there are far more resources for study level airliner support on the old FSX

[kakihara123 144]

28 minutes ago, Nm2far said:

I’m having the same conundrum. MSFS newbie, and recently retired airline pilot, just wanting to chair fly a realistic gate to gate profile for nostalgia and not atrophy a lifelong skill set. I bought a gaming computer, stick and throttle and FS2020. Love the graphics but  completely underwhelmed at the lack of functionality of AP, FMS, MCDU on the airliners, and no PMDG plug-ins for the foreseeable future. 
 

I also have the old FSX Steam version without any plug-ins on another computer, and am thinking I might be better served for my purposes by downloading it to my new computer and buying a PMDG 747-400 module. Realistic graphics are nice but I can live with something as simple as the FMS desktop procedures trainers we used to have at work. For the time being it seems like there are far more resources for study level airliner support on the old FSX

Just go and download the Working Title mod for the CJ4 from Github and don't waste your money on FSX.

 

[Nm2far 1]

9 minutes ago, kakihara123 said:

Just go and download the Working Title mod for the CJ4 from Github and don't waste your money on FSX.

 

👍🏼 Looks very interesting, not a Boeing which I was hoping for, but looks like it will scratch the itch until something else becomes available 

[sauviat 137]

@Nm2far The A32NX by FlyByWire is way ahead of anything else and there are a number of A320Neo pilots working with them.

There are now 4 versions to work from. Go to their Discord Channel for their installer and read what they are doing for the forth version.

Martin

[Dillon 2,197]

On 2/21/2021 at 8:40 PM, Bobsk8 said:

FSX looked old to me when I switched to P3D many years ago. FSX got me to give up simming for years. 

FSX kept me on FS9 for years.  All the way up to FS2020.

[Dazzaboy 81]

27 minutes ago, Dillon said:

FSX kept me on FS9 for years.  All the way up to FS2020.

Same here for a couple of years . I just couldnt get into fsx , dont know why . 

[HighTowers 1,434]

Tried P3D again with so much spent on it.  Nope . No go.  Just feeling too old and tired.  Time to move on.  Even though missing all the complex airliners, it has no appeal anymore. 

But the main thing is, MFS is maturing quite fast relative to what we experienced in previous sims.  Theres a huge amount of development interest out there and so happy to see the freeware modding is stronger than ever. 

Keep in mind, Orbx was charging for small sections of a country or even a US State.   North/South Germany, North South California, England, Ireland, Northern Ireland.  Now we have a full UK update, Full USA update, and upcoming Benelux all for free or paid for when purchased MFS.  I'd say thats a pretty good deal.   Not that I want 3PDs to die, but saving money is not so bad either, and they will find ways to better it. They have the talent.  Just so long its not nickle and diming every little feature.   

The complex airliners will come.   

[Clutch Cargo 384]

I agree, it is hard to go back.  I switched from FSX to P3D when it first came out (boy that was a tough version when released), and never went back.  Then I went to P3Dv5 to MSFS after USA update release (wanted to give it time to mature a little as they rushed release... beta?  What beta?).  So now I haven't been really back to P3D at all.  All versions are still installed but I just slowly see myself being drawn more and more to MSFS.  Granted I am more of scenery simmer than a systems simmer so I don't miss ultra modeled aircraft. 

What I like is how it has seemed to bring back the freeware modeler to the platform... a part of the hobby that seemed missing with P3D versions.   I think good times are ahead of us.

Edited February 28, 2021 by Clutch Cargo

[tweekz 2,165]

On 2/23/2021 at 12:36 PM, Christopher Low said:

One sim to rule them all, one sim to find them. One sim to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. In the land of Microsoft, where the shadows lie...

Something to think about if you start seeing the Lidless Eye in your dreams

Well, I can see ocassional spikes, if that counts.