23 minutes ago, 2reds2whites said:

The notion of these products being $65 is laughable. You’re asking for the most detailed, high fidelity models of aircraft in the history of simulation and you want to pay 2/3 of the price of previous versions? 

Good luck with that…..

Yea, that is an interesting point. It is true that if I were back my P3D or FSX days and you said this aircraft was being released for 80 or 90 dollars I don't  think I would have blinked at it. So, I am pondering why I hesitate now and likely will not buy the Mad Dog at that price. I don't know that I have figured it out yet. But one factor is simply that with MSFS prices have not been the same as P3D and even FSX before that. I used to pay 35 to 40 dollars for a Fly Tampa scenery, now I pay 19. And that price in the context of this platform seems reasonable to me. I will not pay over 21 or 22 dollars for an airport scenery, no matter how good. There are a few airports my wish list that just stay there because they are 24, 25, 26 dollars, (Los Vegas being one of them) and I will not go there. I will wait for a sale; there are a lot of other places to fly.  A complex airliner, sure 60, 70 dollars, yes, but inching toward 100 dollars likely not, unless it is an aircraft I plan to learn and use a great deal and then I likely would. For me, the Mad Dog does not fall into that category, so until there is a sale it will stay on my wish list.

Edited April 25, 20224 yr by Cognita

Price is higher than I expected but I’ll still be a day 1 customer.  I’m a sucker for MD T-tails and the P3D version was fantastic.  

Whenever I started getting overconfident in my virtual piloting skills in the 737 or A320 I’d pull out the Maddog to bring me back to earth 😁. Or the Q400 but that’s for another thread.

Given Maddog's stellar reputation and the non-trivial amount of simmers who're willing to do day-1 purchasing of this aircraft at the currently asked price, not sure how motivated Maddog might be to reduce the price as of now... I guess the question is, considering the set of day-1 purchasers and those who've used this aircraft on P3D, and then considering the set of all MSFS users who're bound be to interested in this niche aircraft, are both pretty much the same or is the latter category/set of people much larger than the former? That should guide their pricing, and who knows they might start at this price to get all the day-1 clients and then reduce the pricing down the line?

Edited April 25, 20224 yr by lwt1971

25 minutes ago, 2reds2whites said:

The notion of these products being $65 is laughable. You’re asking for the most detailed, high fidelity models of aircraft in the history of simulation and you want to pay 2/3 of the price of previous versions? 

Good luck with that…..

Ask yourself, has the market share for these high fidelity products increased by 2/3? Yes, thanks to MSFS, when aerosoft released the CRJ they congratulated themselves on the record numbers they were pulling in and they priced it reasonably also. It’s the developers call of course on how they price it but whether you agree or not you can see in this forum that bringing that price down by $25 dollars may of significantly increased its marketing appeal.

He know, he's got us hooked, that price is a bit STEEP!

45 minutes ago, 2reds2whites said:

The notion of these products being $65 is laughable. You’re asking for the most detailed, high fidelity models of aircraft in the history of simulation and you want to pay 2/3 of the price of previous versions? 

Good luck with that…..

The pricing scheme has entirely changed with MSFS. Airport scenery addons that used to go for $40 USD are now under $20 USD.  That's 1/2 the price for sceneries in MSFS, nevermind the other add-ons that are lower in price in MSFS vs P3D & XP.

Even for PMDG, the DC6 that went for $70 USD in P3D is priced at $55 USD for MSFS.

All these developers can price lower in MSFS, because the number of units they sell is that much higher than P3D or XP.  Like PMDG said, they sold more DC6 in MSFS in the first 12 hours of sales, than the lifetime combined sales of the DC6 in FSX + P3D + XP.

Edited April 25, 20224 yr by abrams_tank

12 minutes ago, Carts85 said:

Ask yourself, has the market share for these high fidelity products increased by 2/3? Yes, thanks to MSFS, when aerosoft released the CRJ they congratulated themselves on the record numbers they were pulling in and they priced it reasonably also. It’s the developers call of course on how they price it but whether you agree or not you can see in this forum that bringing that price down by $25 dollars may of significantly increased its marketing appeal.

Yup.  Not only Aerosoft, but PMDG sold more DC6 for MSFS in the first 12 hours of sales, than the lifetime combined sales of the DC6 in FSX + P3D + XP.  If you price it right like Aerosoft and PMDG, you can make a killing in MSFS.  But you gotta price it right (which I don't think Leonardo has).

I don't really understand it how some people are literally not talking about buying sceneries because one on their wishlist is 4 dollars more than they want to spend. Many of us don't blink at going out and spending $100 for dinner and thats a one-and-done. This product will get use for years. Over and over again. 100's of hours and different scenarios will be had flying this plane. Compared to a weekly or bi-weekly $100 dinner, I think this product has tons of value and I will be buying it on day one. 

Edited April 25, 20224 yr by Bdub22

In this case based on the past sim platform's (FSX/P3D) versions quality I'll be buying the Maddog day one!

It's been the most interesting best airline experience I've had in flight simming.

When you have such a product of that caliber I don't mind paying at that price.

Kudos to Leonardo! 

I was always on the fence for the Maddog, I never bought it on P3D, as I don't think I would fly it very often, if I do eventually buy it would have to be during a sale, or they reconsider the price like Just Flight did with their 146. With the 146 I went to not buying at the higher price to buying it a short while after release once the bank account says I can, as I've spend so much money on my PC and MSFS addons recently plus the 737 and the DC3 are must haves before any other aircraft.

For me its a race for who ever release their product first.

Ill buy the first one of either the BAE, the Maddog or the PMDG 737. The two other ones will have to wait for a while.

For those wonder what is include with the Maddog, here is the list.

Maddog for 2020

New Features Video

Edited April 25, 20224 yr by Wise87

Cant wait! as I said I like the way they handled this , no hype and no complaining about MS/Asobo.  

32 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Even for PMDG, the DC6 that went for $70 USD in P3D is priced at $55 USD for MSFS.

Great, see the Maddog cost 120$ for P3D and will now cost about 80$ in MSFS. That's even a much bigger price reduction than PMDG did, so what's your point?

Anyway I suppose anyone who flew that thing in P3D knows it's worth any single penny, but I know, if I hadn't flown it in P3D I would also think it's overpriced, just because I wouldn't know what an incredible simulation this is (like 2 levels above PMDG). I never felt that immersed in any aircraft like in the Maddog. I think it will sell well at least down the line, when people got bored by the 737. It's a bad timing for Leonardo and PMDG, to be honest. But the real "loser" will be the 146 I suppose...

7 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

For those wonder what is include with the Maddog, here is the list.

Maddog for 2020

Like it, love it, gotta have it ! 🙂