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iniBuilds A300-600 has been released! (reopened)

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 @Hyper14 The A300 is not like the modern Airbus fleet with their detents. Instead, the Auto thrust system moves the physical levers.

On ground at takeoff, ATS is engaged by toggle of either one of the two "Go-levers" - think of them as toga-buttons - computed TO thrust is then set by ATS before it declutches (THR annunciation changes from green to blue text).

It's a very straightforward affair

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  • I'd put every penny I own on assuming that the OP is a younger member of the community here. You should light a small fire in your heart to try to warm up that serious hate you have going on.

8 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

A bit more like a Boeing in that regard

That's what I was going to say: the A300 (both versions) and A310 are the most Boeing buses: no detents, no autotrim. Hope the A300 doesn't have the same bugs the A310 has currently 🙏

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3 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

The question cannot be answered until the plane is released. The usual meaningless youtube clickbait hype.....

I'd put every penny I own on assuming that the OP is a younger member of the community here.

You should light a small fire in your heart to try to warm up that serious hate you have going on.

Cut the kid a break.  He's excited, asking about an aircraft that is about to release.  Read the thread again; see how many opportunities other members here took to be patient and kind.

How on Earth was a slightly naive but pretty innocent set of questions, "clickbait" or even anything to do with YouTube?

Don't bother answering me.  The world can be dark enough at the moment, I have no wish to read vitriolic hate from someone who seemingly never has anything positive to say about anyone or anything.

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I’m pretty pumped for this one and hopefully it does end up being released today.

I love airliners of this generation and the YouTube videos I’ve taken the time to watch seem to indicate this will be a very high fidelity nicely polished product.

It will be fun to use for freighter ops, visiting airports or parts of airports you don’t normally do in a passenger plane, never mind a heavy one.

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3 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

The usual meaningless youtube clickbait hype.....

It's not meaningless at all. These videos give very good (depending on the person) idea of what the aircraft is like

Live streams even more since they're, well live.

5 hours ago, SAS443 said:

 @Hyper14 The A300 is not like the modern Airbus fleet with their detents. Instead, the Auto thrust system moves the physical levers.

On ground at takeoff, ATS is engaged by toggle of either one of the two "Go-levers" - think of them as toga-buttons - computed TO thrust is then set by ATS before it declutches (THR annunciation changes from green to blue text).

It's a very straightforward affair

So if I am using my Bravo throttle it is obviously not physically going to move, is it then redundant for use other than taxiing or applying reversers, as there are no detents? Also, I would think T.O. THRUST can be achieved by clicking the A/THR BUTTON & moving the Throttle Levers manually as well?

 

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3 hours ago, TomCYYZ said:

Also, I would think T.O. THRUST can be achieved by clicking the A/THR BUTTON & moving the Throttle Levers manually as well?

No, not when aircraft is on ground. The only way to engage ATS "THR" mode is to toggle the go-lever on the throttle quadrant, which for simming convenience also can be achieved via mouse push on the glareshield in the ini A300 (if I remember correctly)

FYI, The ATS "arming" procedure is already accomplished during preflight when you arm ATS1 and ATS2 via switches on the overhead panel. (This can be rather confusing at first if you are used to Boeings I recon)

Edited by SAS443

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4 hours ago, TomCYYZ said:

So if I am using my Bravo throttle it is obviously not physically going to move, is it then redundant for use other than taxiing or applying reversers, as there are no detents?

To add to what SAS said -- here is how I do it with the A310 (which is the same throttle setup as far as I can tell) with HC Bravo:

So I physically move the throttles to taxi out.  Then after clearance etc. and lined up, I hit the TOGA button.  At that point the autothrottle is in control (assuming as SAS mentioned, you have ATS1/2 set per checklist, and autothrottle is set in the AP control) and I physically move the Bravo throttles all the way forward.  Moving them all the way forward isn't explicitly necessary because, as I said, the autothrottle is in control, but I still do it for safety reasons -- if for example the autothrottle failed my throttles would be around or approx in the right location, certainly better than leaving them at idle thrust.   They stay there during my cruise and descent.

Then on short final, unless I'm doing an autoland, I will first physically move the throttles down a little, and only THEN disable autothrottle (along with the AP) and hand-fly it in.  By physically moving the throttles down a bit before disabling autothrottle, avoids a thrust bump on short final, which you probably don't want.  I've found on the A310, depending on weight, 56-65 N1 is in the ballpark for a short final thrust setting with full flaps.  Haven't flown the A300-600 yet to know what is best for it. 

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Let's continue the post-release discussion of the A300-600 here...I've closed the long pre-release development thread.

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How does this airliner compare to pmdg and fenix products? Is it the same level in terms of system design? For those who are flying it how is it running? Is it well optimized? I looked at some videos and the flight deck looks great at night. Also has anyone flown it using the thrustmaster airbus stick and throttle? Wondering how those will work with this.  

Edited by red259

8 minutes ago, red259 said:

How does this airliner compare to pmdg and fenix products? Is it the same level in terms of system design? For those who are flying it how is it running? Is it well optimized? 

Well it is more like the A2A Comanche or FSR500 of jet airliners.

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Just now, Krakin said:

Well it is more like the A2A Comanche or FSR500 of jet airliners.

In what way? I suspect with A2A you are referring to wear and tear/need for external inspections, but do you mean its like A2A in that its both external and internal systems being fully fleshed out? 

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