2 hours ago, GCBraun said:

If someone has also used the Rotate MD-11 for XP and could do a quick comparison, that would be appreciated. As a user from both sims, I generally do not purchase the same aircraft type twice, unless there is a significant reason to do so. 

I have just completed 1,5 shorter flights with the TFDI. But owned Rotate MD11 since its release.

IMHO it's no contest, despite the initial blemishes on the TFDI variant.

Everything from the displays to the auto flight is better. VNAV in Rotate is especially unpredictable.

TFDI tend to patch their initial releases rather quickly, which is not something you can say about Rotate IMHO.

32 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

You are so wrong! 

You're entire paragraph was a perfect demonstration on the different purposes of a game addon aiming to replicate an aircraft and actually paying for flight instruction in real life. They provide different outcomes.

 

33 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

So no whether it's nostalgia, flight training, or just possibility to fly something you can't IRL  sims and fidelity do matter 

Never denied them mattering, but trying to argue a $70 addon is provides some equivelancy to flying the aircraft irl is just incorrect. You're going to get two very different things from these two experiences.

 

35 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Also remember when we were kids we played a lot games, and some of those game become our current occupation - that is how human beings are rigged. 

Yeah games and many other life experiences can steer humans to particular career choices, but how is this relevant to your original point, equating a flight sim addon to irl flight training and aircraft rental costs?

I am doing yesterday's flight in reverse flying ANC to SEA.  This time more payload (fish) and less fuel.  Getting to know the automation more and had absolutely perfect and stunning takeoff out of ANC.  TFDi really captured that powerful yet at the same time HEAVY feel.  This plane is quickly becoming my favorite in the sim!

How is the soundset?  Do they sound like glorified vacuum cleaners, or do you get that nice bassy rumble?  It’s hard to tell from YouTube videos.

MANUAL(S) NEEDED. Have searched high and low on TDFIs ridiculous website with no luck.  CAN SOMEONE HELP?  Please and Thank You!

-B

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1 minute ago, btacon said:

MANUAL(S) NEEDED. Have searched high and low on TDFIs ridiculous website with no luck.  CAN SOMEONE HELP Please and Thank You?

-B

https://docs.invernyx.com/

2 minutes ago, btacon said:

MANUAL(S) NEEDED. Have searched high and low on TDFIs ridiculous website with no luck.  CAN SOMEONE HELP?  Please and Thank You!

-B

I only found this https://docs.invernyx.com/en/md11/systems

8 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I only found this https://docs.invernyx.com/en/md11/systems

Thanks very much

9 minutes ago, espent said:

https://docs.invernyx.com/

Where from there please and thank you?

32 minutes ago, Gilandred said:

How is the soundset?  Do they sound like glorified vacuum cleaners, or do you get that nice bassy rumble?  It’s hard to tell from YouTube videos.

I find it to be pretty adequate, and better than PMDGs 777 low rumble start or lack thereof.  I guess everyone's feeling will be dependent on their speakers and sound chip and if they can capture very low frequency.  A subwoofer would be great. 

 

Have done a couple flights now.  The first had some errors, all due to user error.  Heck its been over 10 years since we flew the last one in FSX.  Have to relearn alot but its a heck of a lot of fun to fly , and be a little more busy than the full modern automatics of today. Been watching the "father time" videos who does a really great thorough job of going thru the systems.  TFDI did a fantastic job modelling quirky stuff to the MD11s personality.   Really looking forward to more flights.  Recommended

 

Haven't flown it yet, but one thing I'm noticing is that Navigraph Hub appears to hang when updating it. I looked around and apparently there are, according to a Navigraph rep, 95 thousand files to be updated in its nav system.

That... Seems excessive. So I'll fly it after however long it takes Navigraph to load nav data that apparently encompasses the entire solar system. 😉

 

I was in two minds about buying it, but I am glad I did. I had bought the Rotate version in XP but could never get the hang of it. There was always some issue with it. Just done KDSF-EGNX with some time compression over the Pond, and i have to say it's my go to aircraft for any cargo op's.

2 hours ago, Krakin said:

So you're doubling down and making yourself look foolish in the process. I quoted you as saying the two variants of the MD-11 cost $40 each.

The A300 is $44.25 but it is two variants for that price!!!! There's a passenger AND cargo variant so that works out to $22.13 each!

Congratulations on playing yourself.

Does the ini build have a comprehensive failure system? It’s not advertised to have one and the reviews I looked at say it has a limited failure system. Most likely referring to the mx functions. Until it does, your comment is still a stupid comment. IF tfdi doesn’t actually deliver on their failure system then yes you would have the upper hand in this shouting match. Then again, if you are someone that doesn’t care about failures, then this is stupid because now you’re holding your cards close just to make idiotic comments about a product. 
 

But anyways, did you purchase the pmdg 777?

Sad to see some of the comments here becoming personal.

We are fortunate now to have a choice of 3 long haul aircraft in MSFS...2 freighter options and 3 PAX.

 

2 hours ago, Lucky38i said:

You're entire paragraph was a perfect demonstration on the different purposes of a game addon aiming to replicate an aircraft and actually paying for flight instruction in real life. They provide different outcomes.

 

 

 As a flight instructor I can tell you that 70$ one spend for an hour of flight training  aka discovery flight is not worth it! You are better off spending  $70 in MSFS fidelity aircraft add on, learn more for "a buck" and come back with some clear idea of what journey you about to embark to! LOL Just FYI in average 70% people who start flight training drop off at some point realizing that is not what they expected or due to financial strain. So that is big wasting money pool here! 

I assume you are going to say MD-11 has nothing to with primary training aircraft. Yes and no! In my experience you can learn fundamentally good habits straight out of MD11 like setting take off trim, to fly stabilized approach,  round off by holding particular pitch/landing attitude and etc. Basically dedicated simmer can become well informed student pilot in RL and this is a big deal! While there is no substitute for stick and rudder skill that you can only posses IRL, this is not  what statistically kill average GA pilot IRL ! Aeronautical decision making mistakes follow by loss of controls that what kills pilots!

Here is MD-11 gives you a chance to do all aeronautical knowledge foundation good habits: flight preparation, checklists, fuel planning, weight and balance, weather planning, runway lengths, approach charts, constrains and etc. 

Even software developer who works on replicating real aircraft system  for the "game" become more informed than average joe. Call it game or whatever you want but those undeniable facts . I have a lot of friends who no longer can flight due to health problem and age. Most all of them find their aspiration in fly sims/games. That give them back those golden years but in virtual world. It's cheaper and still exciting. I hope one day you understand this.