1 hour ago, eslader said:

Haven't flown it yet, but one thing I'm noticing is that Navigraph Hub appears to hang when updating it. I looked around and apparently there are, according to a Navigraph rep, 95 thousand files to be updated in its nav system.

That... Seems excessive. So I'll fly it after however long it takes Navigraph to load nav data that apparently encompasses the entire solar system. 😉

 

It only took maybe 3 or 4 mins. for it to update at my end.

HELP NEEDED FINDING TDFI MD-11 MAIN INSTALL / Camera.cfg.  I’ve looked everywhere I can think of and cannot locate the main install folder.

Please and Thank You,

EDIT:  Found and fixed.  Thanks all…

-B

Edited July 3, 20241 yr by btacon

Fun little bug where the PFD and all of the other screens have this strange performance drop, anywhere from seconds to minutes. AP goes completely nuts and you have to disconnect until it resolves itself. 

https://streamable.com/qe7pe0

1 hour ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Does the ini build have a comprehensive failure system? It’s not advertised to have one and the reviews I looked at say it has a limited failure system. Most likely referring to the mx functions. Until it does, your comment is still a stupid comment. IF tfdi doesn’t actually deliver on their failure system then yes you would have the upper hand in this shouting match. Then again, if you are someone that doesn’t care about failures, then this is stupid because now you’re holding your cards close just to make idiotic comments about a product. 
 

But anyways, did you purchase the pmdg 777?

Always a sad, pathetic sight to witness someone refusing to admit that they got it wrong.

5 hours ago, Keirtt said:

Your observations about the pitch sensitivity are accurate. Many of us have worked on creating profiles for the aircraft and adjusting the sensitivity with minimal success. The reality is, the thing is way too sensitive, especially on approach/final. I'm hopeful the team will find a way to adjust this and make it feel like a heavy.

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Yeah.

After watching some streamers who I respect in terms of actually knowing left from right, the pitch moment is ridiculous. I had planned on giving this a punt until I saw this behavior. Some devs can and some can't, apparently. A2A can. PMDG can. Fenix can. JustFlight can.

Adjusting pitch sensitivity isn't a solution to this.

 

I had an issue landing at SEA this morning.  The Auto Throttle was going nuts and would not shut off no matter what I do.  As soon as the wheels hit the runway the throttles would spool up to 100% + N1 and was forced to go around.  Had this happen twice and on the 3rd try I think I got them off.  However on approach flap drag was so excessive I let it get a bit slow and I could not flare on touch down.  Ended up just getting a crashed screen but in real life I probably would have cartwheeled down the runway. 

I am sure I forgot a step and that is why the auto throttles were still working but the excessive flap drag was the real problem.  Flaps 15 is not bad but beyond that it wants to fall out of the sky unless you really keep them engines spooled up. 

So I just discovered I had 1.0 installed and the latest version is actually 1.01.  No idea if that is going to make any difference but downloading 1.01 now!

 

Edited July 3, 20241 yr by longhaul747
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On 6/29/2024 at 2:57 PM, sd_flyer said:

I wonder if release is going to feature WX radar and EGPWS? I haven't seen it in any previews yet

Based on the search I just ran on their discord, there is no WX radar or terrain map, I am not really sure why they couldnt include both as many other airliners availble in FS20 have at least one of these features. I know the weather radar is just a simple bitmap and is nothing like the real thing but we use these tools IRL and for a plane that is offering this level of detail and systems depth, I cannot understand why these are lacking....

I'm liking this bird more than the 777. Better displays, great sounds, fantastic tablet, good frames. 

41 minutes ago, 757FO said:

Based on the search I just ran on their discord, there is no WX radar or terrain map, I am not really sure why they couldnt include both as many other airliners availble in FS20 have at least one of these features. I know the weather radar is just a simple bitmap and is nothing like the real thing but we use these tools IRL and for a plane that is offering this level of detail and systems depth, I cannot understand why these are lacking....

Yes thanks! I just discovered that myself and also wondered why!

2 hours ago, Dreamflight767 said:

It only took maybe 3 or 4 mins. for it to update at my end.

You're lucky. Apparently I'm not the only one with this issue, and they're working with Navigraph to fix the issue.

I finally gave up and force-quit Navigraph. After 2 hours, I figured I was more interested in checking the plane out than having accurate nav data, especially since I didn't have time to do a full flight anyway.

 

Flew it once around the pattern. Pretty nice! It's got a few issues that need to be worked on but all in all a pretty impressive debut. I did not notice the pitch issues to the degree others have mentioned, but I have seen people complain about other planes being pitchy when I haven't had the same issues. I think my Fulcrum yoke has enough elevator travel that it's not as noticeable. It did feel a little overly nimble on landing, but I'm sure that'll be ironed out.

The biggest issue in my short flight is that the pointer is messed up in VR. It's not distancing itself appropriately so that it appears to be on top of the buttons. When you focus on the buttons, you see two pointers. I had to close one eye every time I wanted to do something in the cockpit. 

The other main issue I noticed is that if you click on an entry box in the EFB (such as filling out the airport code, etc) and you do not click away from that box, the yoke and rudder pedals freeze but the throttles do not which makes takeoffs unpleasant. 😉

I also couldn't figure out how to convince the plane that it was in takeoff trim, but that's probably me not knowing the systems yet.

One thing I noticed that I particularly liked, it seems to be modeling the hyds well. If you shut off engines 1 and 3 without engaging the aux pump and then try to move just using engine 2, your nose wheel will stop steering after 1 and 3 spool down.

 

BTW there's already a profile for this plane in SPAD that works with the Bravo quadrant, and it's better done than most of the profiles for the PMDG 737 even though that's been out a long time. I was happy to find that.

 

Count me in to that group who is slightly annoyed about the pitch in manual flight. It feels like someone else is also pushing the virtual yoke, but with a slight delay so your initial corrections are amplified but unfortunately also out of phase, so to speak. Very nervous behavior, totally unfit of a 200ton airliner coming to land.

Hopefully this can be fixed.

I wonder if adjusting pitch axis Reactivity in the controller setting may help calm the pitch issue
It may not work as well on airliners but it just might be worth a try. Check out this video.

 

6 hours ago, SAS443 said:

Count me in to that group who is slightly annoyed about the pitch in manual flight. It feels like someone else is also pushing the virtual yoke, but with a slight delay so your initial corrections are amplified but unfortunately also out of phase, so to speak. Very nervous behavior, totally unfit of a 200ton airliner coming to land.

Hopefully this can be fixed.

To be fair to the MD11's...by all accounts they are very pitch sensitive IRL and new pilots to the type were prone to overcorrections on them. I'm not dismissing your observations or feelings. I have been flying it in MSFS for a while as a CE owner. I do think it could be toned down just a bit to account for most users not using FFB yokes but then we get into the realm of "realism" vs "what feels good in a sim", along with a myraid of users with different hardware and different ideas on what "feels" right. What one person deems good or perfect another deems faulty.

2 hours ago, CaptainNick said:

To be fair to the MD11's

Thanks for the reply. And you are absolutely right.

But my issue is... these planes are equipped with artificial pitch rate damping (part of LSAS), what I am experience is the complete opposite - pitch rate gain while moving the yoke very gently.

My theory (layman theory I should add) is that violent pitch changes in approach are caused by LSAS exiting pitch attitude hold due to forces applied to the control column (as IRL) but the end result for the user is too messy (lack of better words).

I will try to Tinker with sensitivity of my PFC yoke and report back!

how it is the performance of the md-11 on cpu more light like pmdg or heavy like Fenix or ini builds aircrafts?