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Is it me or does PMDG's 777 cockpit look outdated?

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Richard Chafey

 

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MSFS 2020, DCS

 

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  • sherv_BBS
    sherv_BBS

    It's skeptics like you that motivate us to prove you wrong. You have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. I've been in sim development off and on for over 26 years. We're one of the few devs tha

  • It looks like a  777, what do you want to look like?i

  • Fiorentoni
    Fiorentoni

    Maybe in being more than a screenshot? You're comparing a non-existing product to an existing product, and all based on a screenshot. Also how do we know the Bluebird devs are perfectionists? You h

3 hours ago, carlanthony24 said:

Watched CptCanada arrive into Dubai he had stutters and couldn’t explain why. Did a 7 hour flight yesterday and FPS degraded a couple of hours before that with stutters. Love to know what is happening.

Because it's from iniBuilds.

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

44 minutes ago, rickjake said:

Some are saying the P3D version sounds are better then the MSFS version, but are they actually more true to life? 

Sounds from the flightdeck, only a real world T7 pilot could really answer that question,  the rest of us are just speculating. 

 

 

A real world captain would typically fly with a headset.  So that may not be clean cut. There also is more to vc sounds than engine volume. You gave the actual tone and sound frequency. You have spool timings etc. many of those can be easily heard on high quality you tube real world real world recordings. Or even from the opinions of flight attendants and very frequent flyers of the type. I generally like pmdg sounds. But have never liked their 777 ones. In msfs or p3d 

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Now it is released and the drama continues. Lol. 

17 minutes ago, micstatic said:

A real world captain would typically fly with a headset.  So that may not be clean cut. There also is more to vc sounds than engine volume. You gave the actual tone and sound frequency. You have spool timings etc. many of those can be easily heard on high quality you tube real world real world recordings. Or even from the opinions of flight attendants and very frequent flyers of the type. I generally like pmdg sounds. But have never liked their 777 ones. In msfs or p3d 

That's a very good point - actually would be good to have headset on/off option in the aircraft (also in the 737). Some Devs are offering that now, although I would say it's best done in the XP Chally.... no fuss, click on the headphones and you're wearing them. No faffing with menu's etc.... click on the stand to put them back ..

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20 hours ago, thepilot said:

I'm not totally sold on it yet either. For me the Fenix stays the benchmark...

I'll have to take a look at the Fenix 777. By all the accolades, it must be really something.

6 hours ago, micstatic said:

A real world captain would typically fly with a headset.  So that may not be clean cut. There also is more to vc sounds than engine volume. You gave the actual tone and sound frequency. You have spool timings etc. many of those can be easily heard on high quality you tube real world real world recordings. Or even from the opinions of flight attendants and very frequent flyers of the type. I generally like pmdg sounds. But have never liked their 777 ones. In msfs or p3d 

In another thread, a user with a 5.1 surround sound system said he is hearing the GE90 “roar” very well, but it is encoded in the center channel instead of the left and right channels as you would expect. If so, a user with simple 2.1 sound might not hear it at all, or hear it at very diminished volume. The “roar” might indeed be there, but not for users who do not have a 5.1 sound system on their computer.

Jim Barrett

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8 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

Because it's from iniBuilds.

Regardless if from Inibuilds. I just went to VIDP and got stutters. Just gave a quick test in the Fenix and 738 no stutters.

10 hours ago, MySound said:

Now it is released and the drama continues. Lol. 

What people don't have a right to an opinion? There is drama everywhere in the real world that is more serious than this. This is not serious business in the context or reality and any critique to a developer (in a game/sim genres hobby)  is not bashing or any drama just an opinion from paying customers. Why can't some people understand that?

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20 hours ago, tull said:

And it’s the 757 bluebird are making isn’t it…. And that’s a very modern Flightdeck isn’t it….. Not!🙄

We are talking about texering if its ported it does not look as good , not if its a old plane or not that's got nothing to do with it.

Jason Richards

 

 

 

The base panel is a bit lackluster to some.  But VC sidewalls, pedestal, and other areas make up for it as those are really well done.

I was not the most excited from a VC texture standpoint, as I could even fly without an external model, as spend most time in the VC.....

But, PMDG have done such a GREAT job with the overall immersion factor and the whole experience is so well done that I really enjoy flying it; and that is their objective I suppose :)

Simon
On 6/30/2024 at 6:55 AM, Fiorentoni said:

Maybe in being more than a screenshot? You're comparing a non-existing product to an existing product, and all based on a screenshot.

Also how do we know the Bluebird devs are perfectionists? You have literally nothing to judge their qualities on. They have not yet released a single aircraft. They could by all means just be slow. For me they've lost all their credibility when they announced a 787 on the FSExpo, the aircraft after the aircraft after aircraft. No serious professional would do something like that, especially when their past release history is just blank.

It's skeptics like you that motivate us to prove you wrong. You have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. I've been in sim development off and on for over 26 years. We're one of the few devs that is building an airliner from scratch. I am extremely lucky to have the team that I have working on these aircraft. These guys are good, you will see. In the end, when it's released, we'll let the product speak for itself. Until then, keep the skepticism coming my friend. All good. 

For the rest that have supported us from day 1, thank you!   We will make you proud. 

3 hours ago, sherv_BBS said:

It's skeptics like you that motivate us to prove you wrong. You have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. I've been in sim development off and on for over 26 years. We're one of the few devs that is building an airliner from scratch. I am extremely lucky to have the team that I have working on these aircraft. These guys are good, you will see. In the end, when it's released, we'll let the product speak for itself. Until then, keep the skepticism coming my friend. All good. 

For the rest that have supported us from day 1, thank you!   We will make you proud. 

You‘re kind of missing the point of my „scepticism“ as you call it: Why did you feel the need to announce the 787 on the FSExpo, when you‘re yet to release a product at all?

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

1 hour ago, JaseMelbo said:

Has anyone else spotted the blade runner reference on the wall behind the jump seats?

Jase

Haven't looked. Rather than this or a clickable biro or glowing brake pads etc etc, I'd prefer PMDG to spend a little time enabling us to use our iPads for the FMC and EFB 😉 

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