2 hours ago, micstatic said:

How's the ini A320neo after the update anyway?  I've still never given the plane a chance

I did EGLL to ENGM, ran smooth, no issues noticed other than the flood light being broken, but ini is aware of it.

1 hour ago, Krakin said:

Is is just me or does the A320v2 have vastly improved performance? If this is an indicator of how things will be with the A350 then we're in for a treat!

Yes, that was one of the things they said would be coming when the AAU was announced in the August Q&A.

 

Ini also said during their last dev update on the A350 that they would be focusing on performance for all their products.

1 hour ago, Daube said:

Anybody having issues with the table of the A2A Comanche after the AAU3 update ?

Mine doesn't work anymore, the tablet home page shows a blank/blue page and I can't click it. Same for a friend of mine. We don't have Navigraph, for info...

No issues for me, flew a quick flight just now and all working normally. 

How does the ini neo compare in quality to planes like the fenix or even their own A300?

6 hours ago, jcomm said:

They're probably getting ready to do with Nav database providers what they did with weather injection providers... (just my nasty brain cells at work...)

For 2024 they already announced an integrated flight planning tool, including if I'm not mistaken performance calculations... 

If it turns out to be fully featured and well designed and integrated I can foresse users dropping their Navigraph licenses which are, that's a fact, too expensive...

 

Yeah ... i used to think that the value of navigraph was not there. Until you get to the stage where you realize that you are wanting to get more involved in simming with proper navigation and properly simulate commercial ops. I also started to learn that charts get updated regularly and when your 5 year old chart you found on some random website  is no longer representative of what your actually seeing in the sim (runway number changes  or SID/STARS missing from your aircraft database and you have to start guessing what Arrival/Departure to select when the weather changes and ATC does the old runway switcharoo and your already 5 year old STAR and runway approach chart becomes useless  because you couldnt find ALL the airport charts you needed for that airport ... It suddenly dawns on you that yeah .. maybe I should give this a try for one year and see how it goes.

After the first week i automated the subscription .. 

Mind you i didn't even install their database in the sim but the fact that i can keep the nav databases for the add-on aircraft i use the most (FENIX/PMDG) updated with no issues and i have a graphical overview of all the SID/STARS  and approach options with overlays + moving map + Airport/runway info and Weather properly laid out in one spot for easy selection and adjustment as needed + seamlessly integrated with Simbrief and most importantly i don't have to go back to searching the web for charts anymore?

Call me skeptical but this new built in flight-planner has to be class leading to get me to switch ..

We will see but back to topic i guess..

 

Edited October 2, 20241 yr by Maxis

2 hours ago, micstatic said:

How does the ini neo compare in quality to planes like the fenix or even their own A300?

It's worse. But that kinda goes without saying. 

The Fenix, well, heck, that's just the gold standard for Airbus right there. I would say in some ways though the ini Neo is better than the FBW. It's got more system stuff in there like dual MCDUs and FINAL_App. However, there are places where the FBW has deeper systems if that makes sense?

For the a300 compare, the sounds aren't as good and it doesn't have Navigraph on the EFB. That said, I haven't flown the new update yet but they have added a ton to it.

I will say the ini a320 does give me hope their a21n and a330 in FS24 won't be horrid planes.

9 minutes ago, Maxis said:

Call me skeptical but this new built in flight-planner has to be class leading to get me to switch

I don't think Navigraph users are the target audience. I imagine the default planes will use the new charts on the EFBs however.

I am glad they are putting it in, however. Even on this forum people don't want to use SimBrief and prefer the MSFS planner. And on Vatsim, thank the maker they are putting up to date charts in the sim.

24 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

am glad they are putting it in, however. Even on this forum people don't want to use SimBrief and prefer the MSFS planner. And on Vatsim, thank the maker they are putting up to date charts in the sim.

I agree with this, it is a good development for MSFS. Likely it is not going to replace Navigraph for people like Maxis who want a highly realistic and current experience with flight planning and navigation, but there are may others who do not require such realism to enjoy the simulation and will be happy to just plan a flight and execute it and they will benefit from this. For some it may be a stepping stone to Navigraph, as some who are casually doing these things will want to go deeper.  I kind of fall in between and I am hoping the in-game tools are competent and work basically well; and I will then cancel Navigraph, which is one of the most expensive subscriptions I have, in fact more than what I pay for Microsoft Office!

30 minutes ago, BrammyH said:

For the a300 compare, the sounds aren't as good and it doesn't have Navigraph on the EFB. That said, I haven't flown the new update yet but they have added a ton to it.

 

Maybe not the 300, but the 310-300 got some awesome sounds now IMO.
-B

40 minutes ago, Maxis said:

Yeah ... i used to think that the value of navigraph was not there. Until you get to the stage where you realize that you are wanting to get more involved in simming with proper navigation and properly simulate commercial ops.,,,,

I recently decided to take out a Navigraph subscription after purchasing FSiPanel. I had been living with a June 2021 AIRAC for my PMDG 737-600, and this was generally OK for most situations. However, the availability of all of those charts and approach plates for my airports has made a massive difference. Without these, I had zero clue how to set up certain approaches in FSiPanel. In addition, I now have access to runway 10L/28R at EIDW Dublin

2 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I recently decided to take out a Navigraph subscription after purchasing FSiPanel. I had been living with a June 2021 AIRAC for my PMDG 737-600, and this was generally OK for most situations. However, the availability of all of those charts and approach plates for my airports has made a massive difference. Without these, I had zero clue how to set up certain approaches in FSiPanel. In addition, I now have access to runway 10L/28R at EIDW Dublin

In my case when using FSHUD it's required because otherwise it reverts to a rather outdated AIRAC. One of the reasons why I started using more BATC, although I still prefer FSHUD.

5 hours ago, micstatic said:

How does the ini neo compare in quality to planes like the fenix ?

Donno...How does the default 152 compare to the A2A stuff?

3 hours ago, BrammyH said:

It's worse. But that kinda goes without saying. 

The Fenix, well, heck, that's just the gold standard for Airbus right there. I would say in some ways though the ini Neo is better than the FBW. It's got more system stuff in there like dual MCDUs and FINAL_App. However, there are places where the FBW has deeper systems if that makes sense?

For the a300 compare, the sounds aren't as good and it doesn't have Navigraph on the EFB. That said, I haven't flown the new update yet but they have added a ton to it.

I will say the ini a320 does give me hope their a21n and a330 in FS24 won't be horrid planes.

It gives me hope but they're truly taking on a gargantuan number of projects which is always a little concerning.

At least hearing good things about the A320neo is encouraging, I still haven't tried it since the update. Might do now, was trying to figure out what to fly.

32 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

Donno...How does the default 152 compare to the A2A stuff?

no idea.  I typically don't fly pistons.  (Your attempt at humor wasn't missed btw)   Just looking for more information as I haven't flown the INI

3 hours ago, Cognita said:

I agree with this, it is a good development for MSFS. Likely it is not going to replace Navigraph for people like Maxis who want a highly realistic and current experience with flight planning and navigation, but there are may others who do not require such realism to enjoy the simulation and will be happy to just plan a flight and execute it and they will benefit from this. For some it may be a stepping stone to Navigraph, as some who are casually doing these things will want to go deeper.  I kind of fall in between and I am hoping the in-game tools are competent and work basically well; and I will then cancel Navigraph, which is one of the most expensive subscriptions I have, in fact more than what I pay for Microsoft Office!

I prefer Navigraph yes but 100% agree with your comments... The more options the better. I just commented because for some a Navigraph sub was an absolute non starter because of the cost. I was there and i'm sure you can find a few comments from me a few years back firmly not supporting a sub. But once the need arose the value of the product starts to show itself.

As long as there is a solution for everyone its all good.

53 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

Donno...How does the default 152 compare to the A2A stuff?

A2A is a king - default 152 is a is peasant LOL

8 hours ago, Daube said:

Anybody having issues with the table of the A2A Comanche after the AAU3 update ?

Mine doesn't work anymore, the tablet home page shows a blank/blue page and I can't click it. Same for a friend of mine. We don't have Navigraph, for info...

Quoting myself here: problem solved, apparently with today's update.