1 hour ago, regis9 said:

When you make a change in traffic levels, are those reflected immediately or do you have to reset BATC or anything?  I had very little enroute traffic last night, flying in a part of eastern Canada that should have had a parade of Europe bound flights.  I’m wondering if my turning the enroute traffic up to 10 wasn’t being reflected.

I also noted upon landing in YHZ that the AI traffic on the ground was parked mostly anywhere other than the terminal, which hasn’t been an issue for me with FSLTL traffic, so I’m guessing it’s BATC that assigns parking?

Immediately. Enroute traffic uses a special algorithm and I know it's at the moment a bit difficult to get oceanic traffic at their correct places from the data, so this might have to do with it. Devs are aware of that and trying to figure out how to improve upon that.

As for your second question: Yes BATC assigns parking, using both the scenery data and the real life data. E.g. if the flightnumber American 123 parked at gate 2 in KMIA in real life on a Thursday, it will do the same in the sim.
If the scenery data is corrupt and parking spots do not get loaded correctly, this might make BATC use other spots though.

2 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

As for your second question: Yes BATC assigns parking, using both the scenery data and the real life data. E.g. if the flightnumber American 123 parked at gate 2 in KMIA in real life on a Thursday, it will do the same in the sim.
If the scenery data is corrupt and parking spots do not get loaded correctly, this might make BATC use other spots though.

I generally find MSFS isn't great with parking spots for larger cargo aircraft. Taking the 777F into Vancouver for example, between GSX & BATC there wasn't a parking option other than a gate given by BATC.

A lot of medium sized airports even have the same issue with 737BDSF as well. Would be useful for BATC to allow an over ride of gate/parking size allocation, and also option to delete traffic if it's sitting in the parking you want. (Used to be able to do that with FSLTL / GSX - don't seem to be able to now).

 

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9 minutes ago, Gazzareth said:

I generally find MSFS isn't great with parking spots for larger cargo aircraft. Taking the 777F into Vancouver for example, between GSX & BATC there wasn't a parking option other than a gate given by BATC.

A lot of medium sized airports even have the same issue with 737BDSF as well. Would be useful for BATC to allow an over ride of gate/parking size allocation, and also option to delete traffic if it's sitting in the parking you want. (Used to be able to do that with FSLTL / GSX - don't seem to be able to now).

 

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Override and or select your own parking with option to delete as described above would be a great feature

Thanks for that info.  I’ll try my next flight in a part of the world with heavier non-oceanic traffic.

Flew LSZH-LOWW yesterday. 

All was good until RNAV transition to RNW34. BATC gave 8,000, while charts say on or above 6,000. I requested 6,000, but request was denied. Finally, within 10nm from TDNZ I was asked to contact tower at 8,000!!! Of course the impression was ruined. Will try LOWW-LSZH today for better luck. 

17 minutes ago, Gazzareth said:

I generally find MSFS isn't great with parking spots for larger cargo aircraft. Taking the 777F into Vancouver for example, between GSX & BATC there wasn't a parking option other than a gate given by BATC.

A lot of medium sized airports even have the same issue with 737BDSF as well. Would be useful for BATC to allow an over ride of gate/parking size allocation, and also option to delete traffic if it's sitting in the parking you want. (Used to be able to do that with FSLTL / GSX - don't seem to be able to now).

 

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It does already override it, but only up to a certain margin, because otherwise AI aircraft would clip into each other.

It's also not a MSFS issue per se, it's just the scenery devs that need get their act together. There's many that release sceneries and they haven't even touched the taxiways or parking spots menu - they've only worked on visuals. Fly2High is one that comes to my mind as a big offender.

8 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Flew LSZH-LOWW yesterday. 

All was good until RNAV transition to RNW34. BATC gave 8,000, while charts say on or above 6,000. I requested 6,000, but request was denied. Finally, within 10nm from TDNZ I was asked to contact tower at 8,000!!! Of course the impression was ruined. Will try LOWW-LSZH today for better luck. 

My assumption what went wrong: You were cleared for the approach by ATC (because it can't hand you over to tower without clearing you for the approach) but you did not descent further on your own (as you should have done - once cleared for the approach you are cleared to start the approach, including descents and lateral movement to catch the localizer/glideslope).

As soon as you hear "Lufthansa 123, direct XYZ, cross XYZ at or above 6000, cleared ILS approach runway 34" ATC will not give you further altitudes and you should do further descent by yourself, if necessary.

Edited December 13, 20241 yr by Fiorentoni

41 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

How about birds, so you can avoid a bird strike. 😉

A boat strike is more dangerous.

3 hours ago, Farlis said:

I had some time to do a few flights with the Traffic injection and my verdict is:

Very much work in progress but a good start.

 

Performance is great, even at maximum (with AIG models that is)

What is not so great is that Enroute traffic and ATC talk to each other as if they were approach instead of Upper Airspace. You constantly hear final approach clearances, traffic being asked to switch to tower or checking in at 800ft. This not only clutters up frequency, it will drain your premium voice character models in no time.

Also as of now there is no seperation. So if there are conflicts, ATC will not vector you away and you will run right into the RA.

 

But looking at the roadmap this will probably not come until Traffic 2.0.

Hi, is it possible to reduce the traffic amount? The cluttered frequency is something may annoy me. I ask because I'm considering purchasing this addon.

19 minutes ago, alexcolka said:

Hi, is it possible to reduce the traffic amount? The cluttered frequency is something may annoy me. I ask because I'm considering purchasing this addon.

There are sliders on the UI. You can also run on performance mode. I highly recommend BATC for MSFS 2020.

19 minutes ago, alexcolka said:

Hi, is it possible to reduce the traffic amount? The cluttered frequency is something may annoy me. I ask because I'm considering purchasing this addon.

Yes, even down to specific parts of the traffic. Ground, Approach, Departure and Enroute you can all scale seperately.  

I did however get mixed results with enroute. Anything from 8 it was constant chatter, and from 7 downwards it was suddenly silent.

After a really crazy week I have today off and decided to jump into the sim, was sitting at the gate getting the Fenix ready for departure to Seville and all of a sudden ATC started talking to other aircraft, scared the living c#@p out of me LOL. For a minute I could not figure out what was going on then I looked at my BTC window and the penny dropped ...  Aaah that was what the update I just did was 😆 

No time this week either to peruse the forums here, Oh well nice surprise !!

Happy Friday everyone 

4 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Yes, even down to specific parts of the traffic. Ground, Approach, Departure and Enroute you can all scale seperately.  

I did however get mixed results with enroute. Anything from 8 it was constant chatter, and from 7 downwards it was suddenly silent.

The problem with those sliders is that it all depends a lot on where you fly. In some places a setting of 5 may be too busy while in other places a setting of 10 has you flying all on your own. This is my major gripe with the traffic: one time you can't get a word in and the next time there is no one around. Usually the airports I visit are dead...

3 minutes ago, mistolip said:

Usually the airports I visit are dead...

I'd say that is totally dependant on how much traffic they get in real life and how many of those airlines you actually have liveries for.

My approach to this has always been that I look up the start and destination airports of my routes on FR24 and then look at the last 24 and the next 24 hours of scheduled traffic and then download all those airlines through the AIG manager. And the more routes you fly over time, the more of airlines get added until you have all that fly in your area that you always fly in.

With other injectors like PSXT for example this gives you a very realistic mix both on the ground and enroute. It seemed to me that BATC is not much different from this.

1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said:

Uh that's very weird. This should not happen. Do you use MSFS2024? It has a bug where center and tower frequencies are often the same.
I suggest posting your logs on the Discord server, because that's the first time I've head of that bug.

Both sims,  but that particular flight was in MSFS. The entire flight from Stansted to Edinburgh.