19 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

That was the good part about Microsoft dumping the FS franchise after FSX. We had stability for some time, and that has its benefits.

Another word for your stability is stagnation and that's hardly a good thing. Things being shaken up a bit has led to our hobby being more popular than it has ever been so I guess sometimes a little instability is good.

Let's all shout and chant: Ten more years! Ten more years!

After an 18 month flight sim hiatus, I started to fancy coming back.  I didn't have 2020 installed and the reviews and anecdotes around 2024 at release made me very nervous!

Two weeks ago, I literally flipped a coin to decide which to install... 2020 or 2024 (via my son's Gamepass).    It landed on 2024 and I wasn't optimistic.

I installed 2024 (which took 5 minutes, as opposed to 2020 which has always taken hours to install as I have a lot of marketplace content).     I had pre-watched YT videos on setting up controls in 2024 as I'd heard it caused some people problems.   Within a few minutes I was flying in 2024 with performance I could only have dreamed of in the past and stunning visuals.   In that 2 weeks, I have not had a single CTD or any other issue related to 2024.  It's been perhaps the best 2 weeks in my simming 'life'.

I've already spent about £200 on new addons for the 'new' sim and will never re-install 2020.

....especially not with the release of the Blacksquare TBM850 to 2024, which was my favourite aircraft in 2020.

Just my experience.  I guess I missed all the pain with 2024 on release.   As of now, it's the most breathtaking and satisfying sim I've used in 22 years.

I’ve not yet bought 24 and maybe im missing out.  If so, that’s ok with me.  I watch a fair amount of YouTube streamers on my train commute into work and their experiences have me hesitant to switch over.  The horrific control binding experience being the main reason in my eyes.

2020 looks incredible and I’m fortunate that it flies so stable.  To me, stability is the number one factor I want in a sim.  I’ll eventually move to 24 but I’m in absolutely no rush!

Edited September 7, 2025Sep 7 by jspilot

I fired up the old girl yesterday as I wanted a quick back-to-back comparison with 2024, immediately the sharper textures and far better performance stood out. There's certainly plenty of life left in this one and it's a handy reminder of just how much work Asobo still need to do with 2024 to get it "on par" with 2020 (in as ever my opinion), I may have to stick with his until SU4 drops at least.

But I thought it was supposed to be perfect now???

 

 

43 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

But I thought it was supposed to be perfect now???

 

 

Bob, you’re bordering childish now, come on. Do you really need to add fire to this tribalism? 
 

you’re adding to what makes avsim tiresome at times, both sides keep doing this spat at one another’s sim choices, like who cares?

just pick the whatever sim you want to fly.

 You knowingly started this thread out of bad faith, be better.

50 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

Bob, you’re bordering childish now, come on. Do you really need to add fire to this tribalism? 
 

you’re adding to what makes avsim tiresome at times, both sides keep doing this spat at one another’s sim choices, like who cares?

just pick the whatever sim you want to fly.

 You knowingly started this thread out of bad faith, be better.

No, the childish behavior in my opinion is the posts that insinuate that anyone not switching to MSFS 2024 right now, is somehow not quite with it, because it is so wonderful and so far beyond 2020.

It is obvious from this video, that Asobo realizes there are a ton of issues that are still not right with 2024, and they are attempting to fix them with SU4 and beyond.  That is the reason that many simmers are sticking with 2020 for now, which is why I posted the video that was done by an Airline Pilot. You don't like my posts, then don't read them. 😉

Edited September 7, 2025Sep 7 by Bobsk8

The childish thing is the notion that there is a perfect sim.  Not going to happen, now 10 years or ever.

The sim I use has nothing to do with other sims.  Hence my choice.

dd

I don't know why we could not discuss the comparison between the 2 sims. We share our experiences. The author of this post never said that MSFS 2020 was "better" than MSFS 2024. In its actual state, and I flew many hours on MSFS 2024, this sim is causing many issues for people having a low-mid range hardware. That's all. Of course, you may enjoy MSFS 2024 with GA aircrafts, and I do with the Justflight PA 28 for example. Problems arrive when you try to fly add-on liners on big airports.

Edited September 7, 2025Sep 7 by danhenri

Overall users (career etc.), said by Microsoft, FS24 has more, though in online and free flight, I observe much more in FS20. Both Sims are great still, despite the "early" stage of FS24, and I have been jumping between them, now I am in FS20, the natural evolution would be in the future (years), to be only in FS24 and then in FS24-FS30 haha 

It's not even close. MSFS 2024 is the future. Sim loads up lightning fast. Great performance. No stutters. Looking forward to the many improvements that Asobo has in store!

I am one off them, and i think for still a long time !

And i think there is nothing to say about..🤗

cheers 😉

SU16 has MSFS 2020 running much more fluid for me, didn’t break any old addons and gained a little performance boost as well. SU16 was certainly a success imo. 

MSFS 2020 loads up lightning fast. Great performance. No stutters. Looking forward to the many improvements that Asobo has in store for MSFS2020!😁

Su16 was fine but i was tinkering with my 2024 install slowly getting into it.

 

Went back to 2020 thou i get ctd in TAA and dx11

 

I turn on dx12 and dlss /dlaa and it runs fine.

Any thoughts?

Is it the latest nvidia driver causing this?

Thanks 

Mike