January 30, 201313 yr Commercial Member The upgrade fee was calculated based on the manual effort required to perform an upgrade. Due to the fact, that Dash-8 will sell via numerous sales channels, it can and will happen that the sales will not be performed through the same sales channels during the entire lifecycle of the product, as new retailers will be added, and some other removed from the distribution and therefor, the cross upgrades will also be required. Please, understand that all of these will require manual handling, which is expensive. Hence the upgrade fee. Please also note, that the pricing is preliminary and can vary between the sales channels. For example, there might be a way for a particular distributor not charge an upgrade fee, if an upgrade is automatic. Or a smaller fee, to compensate for the money loss due to the credit card transaction tax. regards, fanda
January 30, 201313 yr Hi Fanda, Thanks for the explaination. From my point of view I was dissapointed because I want to fly this great looking sim from day one of release when the pilot version is released. However I want to buy the pro version, and am not impressed to find out that if I buy the pilot version then upgrade to the pro version when that is released I have to cough up an extra 20 euro! I would have thought the upgrade would be a downloadable exe file. Run that and put in a product key and you are good to go. Not 20 euro's for that. I am more than happy to pay for your top quality product, but do not like the upgrade policy you have. Cheers Neil
January 30, 201313 yr Commercial Member In my opinion 20 euros upgrade fee is completely reasonable when we are talking about probably the best airliner simulation ever made for FSX.
January 30, 201313 yr In my opinion 20 euros upgrade fee is completely reasonable when we are talking about probably the best airliner simulation ever made for FSX. No wrong, it's not 20 euros, it 25 euros plus a charge for upgrade 20 euros thats total of 45 euros. The problem is we can only buy the PILOT version the day it comes out and the point is that's a lot to pay for an upgrade, if the Pro version came out at the same time most would buy the Pro version that is 25 euros more not 45 euros more. I hear what your saying Fanda but I still think for the people that want your product on day of release they should not get penalized because the PRO version will not be available on release. Could it be an option to pay for the PRO version 75 euros on release day and then get the upgrade when available and not pay the 20 euro charge? David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 30, 201313 yr How does the shared cockpit work now that gamespy is dead? Anyone need a first officer?? Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering
January 30, 201313 yr What NAV database will be in use with this model and its avionics? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
January 30, 201313 yr The solution to the upgrade seems obvious: allow people to buy the advanced version on the first day, although it is not available, then let them upgrade for free later when the advanced version comes out. If this does not cover the handling cost, then just increase the cost of the advanced version up front by say 10 euros or whatever amount is necessary. "Maniacs" will buy it anyway... Henri Henri Arsenault
January 30, 201313 yr Please also note, that the pricing is preliminary and can vary between the sales channels. For example, there might be a way for a particular distributor not charge an upgrade fee, if an upgrade is automatic. Or a smaller fee, to compensate for the money loss due to the credit card transaction tax. So does that mean that the likes of Aerosoft wouldn't have to charge the upgrade fee due to their automatic system? Regards, Ró. Rónán O Cadhain.
January 30, 201313 yr Out of curiosity, why don't those who are complaining just sit tight like me? I'll pass on the Pilot Edition, and wait for the Pro Edition and buy that. Just because a more expensive option is available, doesn't mean you've got to buy it, remember? Patience, anyone? Thanks, Adlai
January 30, 201313 yr Commercial Member No wrong, it's not 20 euros, it 25 euros plus a charge for upgrade 20 euros thats total of 45 euros. The problem is we can only buy the PILOT version the day it comes out and the point is that's a lot to pay for an upgrade, if the Pro version came out at the same time most would buy the Pro version that is 25 euros more not 45 euros more. I hear what your saying Fanda but I still think for the people that want your product on day of release they should not get penalized because the PRO version will not be available on release. Could it be an option to pay for the PRO version 75 euros on release day and then get the upgrade when available and not pay the 20 euro charge? We will think about this, thank you for the suggestion. The database will be from Navigraph, and can be upgraded from there The shared cockpit will use our own implementation, it will not be an FSX shared cockpit We obviously can't comment on the aerosoft upgrade policies best regards, fanda
January 30, 201313 yr Excellent news! Can't wait to see what magic you guys come up with. Release within the next few weeks? Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering
January 30, 201313 yr Out of curiosity, why don't those who are complaining just sit tight like me? I'll pass on the Pilot Edition, and wait for the Pro Edition and buy that. Just because a more expensive option is available, doesn't mean you've got to buy it, remember? Patience, anyone? Yup this is my plan.
January 30, 201313 yr Out of curiosity, why don't those who are complaining just sit tight like me? I'll pass on the Pilot Edition, and wait for the Pro Edition and buy that. Just because a more expensive option is available, doesn't mean you've got to buy it, remember? Patience, anyone? Very well said!!
January 30, 201313 yr Oh c'mon, this "dumbed down" attitude is soooo lame. FSX experience has taught me that these "dumbed down" planes, the so called "easy", finally end up being the most difficult. Why? Because they are like "plastic toys": - full of bugs - missing essential features Examples: - Aerosoft Airbus X (no FMC at all) - Aerosoft Airbus X Extended: ----> no LNAV when radial interception is involved ----> incorrectly calculated ToD ----> no custom waypoints when there are multiple fixes with the same name - QW 757 (no custom waypoints)
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