I am currently (as i type) in a disagreement on wether SX is a "game" pr not. WHICH IT IS CLEARLEEEEY NOT! All of the programs that we have transfer in to real life flying. They think PMDG and pfpx ARE ALL GLORYFIED games. When they are actually certified programs by boeing and airbus. 

BACK ME UP! THIS IS A KARMELLO SITUATION. 

Does it really matter?

they are actually certified programs by boeing and airbus.

Who has certified these Boeing and Airbus programs?

Calm down fella.     Hypertension is not a game either!

It depends how you look at it. To some it will be a game, and they will be right. To others it's a deadly serious undertaking that can have life changing repercussions.

Besides, life's a game isn't it? :rolleyes:

(breath) I'll calm down. I got pretectuve of FSX a bit much. You're all right. It depends on how you use it. To a 5 year old crashing the the extra, its a game, to a real life pilot recreating a flight, it might not be.

I don't know what exactly what products are certified. I though there were some. Most likely none. Oops.

Certainly doesn't seem worth all that shouting.  A load of fuss over nothing.

 

Ooops too - you beat me to it :-)

Edited February 4, 201412 yr by Gavin

While I would like to agree. FSX as a program is technically a game. I mean it does say "games for windows" on the side of my FSX Box. Now to be clear, things like the PMDG addons can be certified by Boeing, But that doesn't mean its automatically not a game.

 

 

When they are actually certified programs by boeing and airbus. 

 

Well that certainly doesn't mean anything, there's some below freeware quality payware that reads "Boeing officially licensed product". 

Argh! This old "saw" again? The irony is that those who'd loudly declaim that FS (any version) "is not a game," are many of the same ones who cry that they can't use Prepar3D because...

 

"...it's not a game!"  :LMAO:

 

Seriously, FS (any title) can be whatever you wish it to be, entirely dependent on both your imagination and the use to which you put it.  :He He:

FS X as most of us use is no more a "game" than the simulations that are used across the multinational defense government agencies and their contractors to develop weapons and other warfighting platforms. It is decidedly NOT a "game". Here is one definition of a "simulation":

 

"...Simulation is the imitation of the operation of a real-world process or system over time. The act of simulating something first requires that a model be developed; this model represents the key characteristics or behaviors of the selected physical or abstract system or process. The model represents the system itself, whereas the simulation represents the operation of the system over time...." (Wikipedia)

"...Simulation is the imitation of the operation of a real-world process or system over time. The act of simulating something first requires that a model be developed; this model represents the key characteristics or behaviors of the selected physical or abstract system or process. The model represents the system itself, whereas the simulation represents the operation of the system over time...." (Wikipedia)

Doesn't say anywhere that you can't have that in a game though. A "game" is not necessarily the opposite of a "simulation".

All my life I thought the greatest thing in the world would to be an airline pilot! However, life happens and It was not to be, though I have been blessed in many other ways. I am thankfull I have lived to see the day that technology has provided me a way to (simulate) being one for a saturday afternoon and explore this amazing world as realisticly as possable on a desk top. If it is a game fs is certiantly in a class by itself and above all others. I would call the fs community much more then gamers!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm................................  :ph34r:

 

 

It's a game.

I don't understand why some people feel the need to validate their hobby to themselves or others by declaring "It's not a game!" 

 

Is a "game" not a worthwhile pursuit? Would "playing a video game" make some of us feel inadequate? What does that say about those same peoples' opinions of those who do play games?

 

I'm a big fan of strategy games, particularly historical ones. I can think of half at least a dozen of these games which are of a level of complexity that would stretch the cerebral capabilities of any flight simmer, yes even the ones who fly PMDG and angrily declare "It's not a game!" If you pay extra attention you can even learn stuff whilst playing these "games"... just like with flight sims!

 

 

BTW, FSX is a game. It says so on the box. And no, time spent sitting in front of your monitor flying down a magenta line doesn't count as real hours towards your ATPL.

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noun
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noun
1. imitation or enactment, as of something anticipated or in testing.
2. the act or process of pretending; feigning.
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5. the representation of the behavior or characteristics of one system through the use of another system, especially a computer program designed for the purpose.