A2A Cherokee Enters Beta Testing

[jarhead565 12]

I did a quick search around this forum and didn't see anyone bring up the fact that the A2A Piper Cherokee has been in beta testing since the beginning of March. See this post on their forums. 

 

I must say, after buying their 172 and seeing how it has progressed with the past updates, the Cherokee will be an instant buy for me. 

 

They posted this photo of the cockpit around Christmas time. It looks great!

 

 

 

[Rockliffe 493]

Wow, I must be out of the loop as I had no idea A2A were doing a Cherokee. Like you, I'll drop my credit card the minute it's released.

[altstiff 71]

I am wondering how this one will produce ground effects compared to the 172.

 

I only have a little over 20 hours instruction under my belt. After doing lessons in the 172 I wanted to try the low wing PA28. I did one lesson in the PA28, just once, and on takeoff it felt like I was stuck to the ground, and on landing I couldn't get her to sit down.

 

Was it ever different than the 172.

 

Needless to say I never did a lesson in the PA28 again.

 

And that is something that FSX really lacks IMO, proper ground effects simulation. I wonder what other sim pilots think.

[ryanbatcund 1,780]

Yes I feel ground physics are terrible in FSX. Some devs do a nice job - like Realair with their Duke 2.0

[jarhead565 12]

I am wondering how this one will produce ground effects compared to the 172.

 

I only have a little over 20 hours instruction under my belt. After doing lessons in the 172 I wanted to try the low wing PA28. I did one lesson in the PA28, just once, and on takeoff it felt like I was stuck to the ground, and on landing I couldn't get her to sit down.

 

Was it ever different than the 172.

 

Needless to say I never did a lesson in the PA28 again.

 

And that is something that FSX really lacks IMO, proper ground effects simulation. I wonder what other sim pilots think.

 

I agree with you on the lack of proper ground effects simulations. I got my PPL in the 172 and it would float a little, but not as much as the A2A 172 does.

 

In their defense, the just released an Accu-Sim update (limited to their forum) and after testing it out for a half and hour, it has some great improvements. I can finally come in at 60 kts and land on a 3,000 ft runway without floating all the way to the end.

 

I have a feeling that they will make this Accu-Sim update public with the release of the Cherokee. 

[TrafficPilot 17]

That pic looks absolutely amazing. Best VC I've seen in FSX so far.

 

I fly a PA28 most weekends (weather permitting) so this will be worth getting if it's modelled accurately. Love the older Cherokee models. From the look of the VC it's a sure purchase for me!

[Ben Cap 86]

 

 

proper ground effects simulation. I wonder what other sim pilots think.

 

NGX is the only airliner that seems to model this accurately. Bring her in and flare too much and you'll float till the piano keys on the other end!  :lol:

 

The A2A 172 also does a good with the ground effect considering in the real life 172 it isn't very significant. Presumably from the high wing? Correct me if I'm wrong -- Learned from experience with hard landings from not enough flare and low power...   

[vc10man 373]

 

 

I fly a PA28 most weekends

 

Your R/L feedback would therefore be more than valuable.

[kama2004 23]

I own a PA28 and this will be an immediate buy for me (but I would prefer a Prepar3D ready version). But I was on the impression that they were modeling a Cherookee 6.?

[Ron Attwood 897]

Wow, I must be out of the loop as I had no idea A2A were doing a Cherokee. Like you, I'll drop my credit card the minute it's released.

Howard, what's the matter with you? I rely on you to keep me up to speed! FCOL!

[tttocs 229]

 

 

But I was on the impression that they were modeling a Cherookee 6.?

 

According to the original announcement, it was to be a PA28 with options for 160, 180 and 235.  This is the older PA28 with original "Hershey Bar" wing.

 

Scott

[LeeL 272]

Looking good.

 

Was it on their Facebook page I saw somebody from A2A post some pics of a real world Saratoga and say how much they liked it? I would really like them to do that, a 6 seater would be nice.

 

I'll be getting the Cherokee for sure though

[Jimmy RFR 401]

Mmmm... looking forward to this one!

 

I almost hope it stays in beta awhile yet though; my current 'want-to-buy' list is starting to get a bit long.  I've managed to buy almost nothing so far this year, but all that means is that my list keeps growing... :lol:

[RoboRay 101]

Nice panel, appropriate to my "1980s" era of learning to fly.  Likely purchase. 

[N1G 88]

This was my 2nd plane I flew when I was younger back in the late 60's. Brings back many memories. It looks like I may have to break out the card on this one.

 

Bob

[pilottj 190]

I think they plan on releasing the 180 first, getting feedback, then proceed with other models such as the 235.  Really looking forward to the Cherokee 235, which like it's competitor the 182, is a true 4 seater.  Like the 182, the 235 will haul a good load with decent speed and range.

[BeechPapa 30]

Yes I feel ground physics are terrible in FSX. Some devs do a nice job - like Realair with their Duke 2.0

The planes I get a solid feel for landing are made by Real Air. They have the subtleties down and I feel a sense of control I rarely get to the same level in other planes. Feels good.

 

As for the C172... it doesn't just float, it refuses to lose airspeed, and it immediately gains altitude when you change aoa making it almost impossible to flare and slow down. That altitude, in turn, becomes speed again as you try to counter it. I end up having to pitch down (at 45 knots mind you) just to get it to land, which leads to a horrible nose first landing. You are either climbing in that plane or stalling.

[signmanbob 448]

I sure won't be passing this one by.  It's looking very good. 

[cenkcnk 24]

look perfect. old and steam gauges!

[Great Ozzie 101]

As for the C172... it doesn't just float, it refuses to lose airspeed, and it immediately gains altitude when you change aoa making it almost impossible to flare and slow down.

 

You cannot possibly be referring to the A2A C172 Trainer...

[ryanbatcund 1,780]

Yes he is - I've got the same issue....

[Ron Attwood 897]

I've obviously got a good instructor. My initial problem was always too much speed! :smile: Now I can put that 'lil' thang on the deck, with flare, the stall horn goes peep, a split second later the tyres go chirp!  But then, I'm not a real pilot. :unknw:

[Lowflyer 97]

Too modern for me. This is what a Cherokee dash should look like! B)

 

[KingGhidorah 208]

Now I can put that 'lil' thang on the deck,

 

I don't know about the Cessna or the Piper, but my image for the day is an older gentleman with a walrus mustache, saying "lil' thang," in a British accent.

 

[ryanbatcund 1,780]

I'll prolly buy this too but it won't get flown. Too slow.

 

For the Skyhawk I'm usually over the numbers at 60-65 KT with 50% fuel.