I dont know fellas. now they are saying its confirm.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world...

 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/germanwings-co-pilot-likely-crashed-jet-deliberately-prosecutor/article1-1330886.aspx

 

As a frantic pilot pounded on the cockpit door and passengers screamed in panic, the Germanwings co-pilot "intentionally" sent Flight 9525 straight into the side of a mountain in the French Alps, a prosecutor said Thursday.

In a news conference in Paris, Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin laid out the horrifying conclusions reached by French aviation investigators after listening to the last minutes of the Tuesday morning flight from Barcelona to Duesseldorf. The Airbus A320 began to descend from cruising altitude after losing radio contact with ground control and slammed into the remote mountain, killing all 150 people on board.

It was the co-pilot's "intention to destroy this plane," Robin said.

He said the pilot, who has not been identified, left the cockpit, presumably to go to the lavatory, and then was unable to regain access. In the meantime, co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, a 28-year-old German, manually and "intentionally" set the plane on the descent that drove it into the mountain.

Robin said the commander of the plane knocked several times "without response." He said the door could only be blocked manually.

He said the co-pilot's responses, initially courteous, became "curt" when the captain began the mid-flight briefing on the planned landing.

The information was pulled from the black box cockpit voice recorder, but Robin said the co-pilot did not say a word after the commanding pilot left the cockpit.

"It was absolute silence in the cockpit," he said.

During the final minutes of the flight's descent, pounding could be heard on the cockpit door as plane alarms sounded but the co-pilot's breathing was normal throughout the whole time, Robin said.

"It's obvious this co-pilot took advantage of the commander's absence. Could he have known he would leave? It is too early to say," he said.

He said Lubitz had never been flagged as a terrorist and would not give details on his religion or ethnic background. He said German authorities were taking charge of the investigation into Lubitz.

Robin said just before the plane hit the mountain, the sounds of passengers screaming could be heard on the audio.

"I think the victims realized just at the last moment, " he said.

The families of victims were briefed about the shocking conclusions just ahead of the announcement.

"The victims deserve explanations from the prosecutor," Robin said. "(But) they have having a hard time believing it."

Robin said the second black box still had not been found but remains of victims and DNA identification have begun, he said.

In the German town of Montabaur, acquaintances told The Associated Press that Lubitz showed no signs of depression when they saw him last fall as he renewed his glider pilot's license.

"He was happy he had the job with Germanwings and he was doing well," said a member of the glider club, Peter Ruecker, who watched Lubitz learn to fly. "He gave off a good feeling."

Lubitz had obtained his glider pilot's license as a teenager, and was accepted as a Lufthansa pilot trainee after finishing a tough German college preparatory school, Ruecker said. He described Lubitz as a "rather quiet" but friendly young man.

Lufthansa said the co-pilot joined Germanwings in September 2013, directly after training, and had flown 630 hours.

The captain had more than 6,000 hours of flying time and been a Germanwings pilot since May 2014, having previously flown for Lufthansa and Condor, Lufthansa said.

German interior minister Thomas de Maiziere said that current information suggested that the co-pilot had no links to terrorism. "According to the current state of knowledge and after comparing information that we have, he does not have a terrorist background," he said.

Like I said earlier, nothing will stop collusion. If everybody in dispatch and atc want to crash that plane, no amount of technology can stop that. What you can do, is automate as much as possible, increase the visibility of actions, and distribute controllability so that the collusion required to act maliciously requires more and more participants. That increases the difficulty for a malicious act to succeed.

 

I don't think even collusion is needed. What it comes down to is the fact that at some point there is a single person with sole responsibility for X number of lives - whether that be remotely, from the flight deck, driving a bus, driving a train etc - and as you quite rightly said earlier, if that person chooses to deliberately do something, then there's not a lot you can do. Other than to take a step back and try to work out why they did it, and fix that instead. Unfortunately that's a lot harder to do.

This information is really making me feel very sad. I can't even begin to imagine what the poor friends and relatives of the plane's passengers and crew are going through at this time. God bless them all :(

Add this tragedy to the legacy of 9/11, if the preliminary reports turn out to be factual, then this is another example of the malignant nature of terrorism. Had the tragic events of 9/11 never happened and there was no such threat, would the cockpit door security features exist today?

 

The aviation industry is facing the dilemma of eliminating the flaw in this security measure that I don't envy.

The most interesting part of the above story is whether the co-pilot knew the captain would step out of the flight deck.

 

If he didn't, then he would have been waiting on every flight for who knows how long for the perfect moment to do this. If that's true, then either he has the world's best poker face and hid whatever dark thoughts that obviously were going through his mind for weeks before this happened, or something happened suddenly and recently in his life.

 

Either that or Lufthansa has terrible job screeners.

I don't think even collusion is needed. What it comes down to is the fact that at some point there is a single person with sole responsibility for X number of lives - whether that be remotely, from the flight deck, driving a bus, driving a train etc - and as you quite rightly said earlier, if that person chooses to deliberately do something, then there's not a lot you can do. Other than to take a step back and try to work out why they did it, and fix that instead. Unfortunately that's a lot harder to do.

But that is the advantage of moving towards full automation. No one person can take control. The technology is there, planes like the global hawk point the way. Start with that kind of full automation. Then walk it backwards introducing methods of human intervention in case of abnormalities. Design the controls that all actions are directly visible and fully supervised by others who can intervene should the action be deemed inappropriate. The technology is available and just requires a little bit of thoughtful network design to make it extremely difficult for malicious activity.

When I read the first reports of the crash and surrounding facts, my first thought was that it sounded like pilot suicide. What an utterly horrible act, just completely unthinkable. I hope that investigators will be able to piece together what went wrong with the co-pilot's state of mind and then introduce measures to monitor psychological stability. I believe the CNN page for the crash quotes Lufthansa as stating they (or their subsidiaries i.e. GermanWings) do not do any psychological testing. Maybe this will change now, no doubt to the annoyance of all flight crew and personnel.

Murderer.  Sad day...

the pilot that did it is a flat out coward, he should have went home and killed himself regardless of his own problems, why take close to 150 souls just because one man was unhappy, this topic really angers me,all the people's lives cut short because of one mans foggy corrupt thinking.

I hear you, Brett. I mentioned feeling sad further back in this thread, but to be honest it is a mixture of sadness and anger. How someone could be so selfish is beyond my ability to understand.

I had always assumed foul play. Unfortunately, it is hard to suspect people who are going to crack sometimes.

A pilot is supposed to be a hero to his crew and passengers, not a murderer.

How will they screen for this. Quite often you will hear... but he seemed so happy, right after a suicide

 

 

How someone could be so selfish is beyond my ability to understand.

 

Unfortunately the man had something wrong and you can't assign "normal" feelings to someone who is suffering from a mental problem.  You feel he was selfish...he may have just wanted a way to end it.  Other people's lives and what he does with them never factored into the equation.  Or maybe he was just a cold blooded murderer...again, not selfish...just a killer.

 

Either way, it's a sad outcome for many families and friends.