ATR is out

[qqwertz]

How does one cut off fuel? My condition levers work nicely between feather, low and high, but they don't go down to fuel cut off. When I try to set it in the VC, they jump right back to feather. I can't stop the engines, even switching off fuel pumps does not help.

[anden145]

1 minute ago, qqwertzde said:

How does one cut off fuel? My condition levers work nicely between feather, low and high, but they don't go down to fuel cut off. When I try to set it in the VC, they jump right back to feather. I can't stop the engines, even switching off fuel pumps does not help.

Please see response here from @Fiorentoni 🙂

 

 

[JRBarrett]

2 hours ago, Prpn said:

Hey JR! I think part of your information is outdated. The CRJ (or at least the ones I fly) has demonstrated the capability to fly RF Legs and is able to do so when coupled to GNSS as navigation source with AP on or FDs on. It also needs FMC *-28 software or later, and it should show such approaches in the FMS. Still not authorized for RNP-AR, I think this may also have something to do with the required commanded bank angle below 400' AGL. But if/when you find RF legs outside of such -AR procedures, the CRJ should able to fly them if you meet these requirements.

I can not find those bank limits in any of our FCOMs or AFM on the CRJ9, it just mentions things like "1/2 bank limits to 15 degrees of roll" and "1/2 bank limits to half the normal bank limit for the selected lateral mode" which would logically lead me to 15 and 30 degrees. Just curious and wanting to find out more about it.

Yes, it can fly RF legs, just not to RNP AR accuracy. The bank limits I mentioned are in the Proline 4 systems manual, which is a maintenance publication. 15/30 is close, and it may be simpler to “round up” for the purposes of the FCOM.

Our Challenger 850s/CRJ200s do have the STC to add LPV approach capability, and it works very well indeed! Our crews use LPV all the time. I don’t think many airline operators have adopted LPV, as the STC is quite expensive, and involves about 2 weeks down time to add/modify wiring, plus upgraded GPS units.

We also have the Safe Flight STC for auto-throttles. That is only available for the CRJ 200. It’s not compatible with the FADEC engines on the 700/900.

We also have RAAS, which is a modification to the Honeywell EGPWS. Curious is that is commonly used in airline CRJs?

[TomCYYZ]

10 hours ago, regis9 said:

 

Thanks I didn’t realize it needed a manual update, I’ll poke around and figure that piece out.

 I don't see a format for "Microsoft ATR 42/72" in the Downloader. I have version 1.6.4. So, it does not update automatically, I thought it did, Where can we see a manual update, on the Navigraph website?

EDIT: No worries everyone. False alarm, I checked out the Navigraph forums and found my answer. I simply regenerated a flight plan and "Microsoft ATR 42/72" was showing in the list. If anyone replied to this, Thanks!

Edited April 29, 2023 by TomCYYZ

[turbomax]

[regis9]

Thanks, all good now.

[somiller]

On 4/28/2023 at 10:02 AM, asanosho said:

The ATR appears to be using her own database:

I had planned to do a short test flight from Greater Cumberland Regl (KCBR) to Grant Co (W99) yesterday but the FMC would not accept W99 ("Not in Database").

However, W99 is definitely in the MSFS database as well as in Navigraph which I use.

W99 is in the ATR database (FMC data key; DATABASE; AIRPORT:W99 - but I get a format error when trying to enter in FPLN INIT; ROUTE; FROM/TO:KCBE/W99. I looked it up and Grant County has no ICAO code, it's code is FAA LID: W99

When one downloads a flightplan for KCBE-W99 using the new Simbrief ATR profile the file is named KCBEKW99.flp.

file contents in the spoiler below

Spoiler

[CoRte]
ArptDep=KCBE
RwyDep=KCBE05
ArptArr=KW99
RwyArr=KW9931
ArptAltn=KIAD
SID=
SIDEnrTrans=
STAR=
EnrSTARTrans=
APPR_Trans=
RwyArrFINAL=RNV31X
CoRoute=KCBEKW99
FltNo=
FltID=ATR
DctWpt1=ESL
DctWpt1Coordinates=39.225492,-78.989500

 

[Sonosusto]

4 hours ago, turbomax said:

For some reason, I am having trouble getting the ATR on here.

[turbomax]

3 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

I am having trouble getting the ATR on here.

using latest version of the simbrief downloader v1.6.4(22252)?

Edited April 30, 2023 by turbomax

[somiller]

49 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

For some reason, I am having trouble getting the ATR on here.

When I looked 2 hours ago in Simbrief Downloader I swear it wasn't there for me either, but I just looked now and I do see the Microsoft ATR download item.

[Peter Z KCLE_EDDN]

Is everyone having a blast flying this beauty, like me? I didn’t know what to expect having just come over from P3D, but I’m completely blown away by Hans’ work here. Fortunately many tutorials helped me to experience the ATR nearly without bugs. I can change temps to F or C without problems, and my MCDU hasn’t crashed once.

This plane will be around a while, congrats Hans - ein wirklich tolles Produkt 🍻.

Cheers,

Pete

[Ricardo41]

On 4/28/2023 at 4:16 AM, pete_auau said:

take  it  your  seeing  this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlHUHePwarw

 

So, entering the airway screws up the FMC and all the panels freeze like deer in the headlights.

Wonky simbrief integration.

Apparently, it doesn't read world planner generated flightplans.

Yes! This plane was ready to be released!

Of course, we can all "wait for Asobo (Hans Hartmann" to fix......."

[HighTowers]

47 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

So, entering the airway screws up the FMC and all the panels freeze like deer in the headlights.

Wonky simbrief integration.

Apparently, it doesn't read world planner generated flightplans.

Yes! This plane was ready to be released!

Of course, we can all "wait for Asobo (Hans Hartmann" to fix......."

Dont understand the critical nature from many.   There should be no fix for this.  737NG Driver made an important point in his video about the freezing.   Why wasnt this freezing of the FMC detected in beta when they had professional ATR pilots testing it out?    The answer is simple. Because they follow what they do in real life.  Meaning they dont type in the airways.  It is selected from a list.   Therefore no freezing.  

Should be a wake up call for everyone.  This is a testimony that the aircraft is properly done, since ATR themselves had a heavy hand in the information they give.   If we type in airways and waypoints and it freezes , its simply not the correct way of the real aircraft.   

 

[Fiorentoni]

1 minute ago, HighTowers said:

Dont understand the critical nature from many.   There should be no fix for this.  737NG Driver made an important point in his video about the freezing.   Why wasnt this freezing of the FMC detected in beta when they had professional ATR pilots testing it out?    The answer is simple. Because they follow what they do in real life.  Meaning they dont type in the airways.  It is selected from a list.   Therefore no freezing.  

Should be a wake up call for everyone.  This is a testimony that the aircraft is properly done, since ATR themselves had a heavy hand in the information they give.   If we type in airways and waypoints and it freezes , its simply not the correct way of the real aircraft.   

 

You think the real FMS freezes when you try to enter an airway in that way, consequently compromising the entire flight and the safety of it?

[HighTowers]

8 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

You think the real FMS freezes when you try to enter an airway in that way, consequently compromising the entire flight and the safety of it?

Ask an ATR pilot.  They all seem to select from the list rather than entering it in.  But what do I know.  I'm learning the aircraft like most. Was just pointing it out why they didnt find it in beta because of the critique it wasnt ready for release.