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Finally, Trains are coming to MSFS!

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Awesome...

Just what we needed... more unneeded word not allowed taking up resources from the actual simming experience...

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  • Then don't buy it 🤦‍♂️

  • Not a bad idea.. Even low and slow flying. I don't need Carenado style recreation of trains. Just a general sensory sense of "Oh cool! Look a train!"...   And I'm a rail fan who could nitpick a train

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    Wait until the trains start doing smart about turns when they meet a cross roads. Should be fun. 🤣

I hate when they always speak about performance in a vacuum, every single developer does this "Oh it barely has an impact on performance" and they just speak of raw framerate numbers. Problem is the impact on the rendering thread and the hard stops it creates when a new entity is spawned which becomes microstutters. Even little, innocent addons that suddenly introduces these stutters as objects are to be rendered. Especially AI planes are bad at that, creating massively uneven frame pacing. 

Having lots of objects and things going on in a scene isn't difficult and may have a small performance impact once rendered, the problem is that little microsecond where all this stuff is to be loaded in, especially if not done in a graceful way or optimized for it. 

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23 minutes ago, Mgard78 said:

Awesome...

Just what we needed... more unneeded word not allowed taking up resources from the actual simming experience...

Then don't buy it 🤦‍♂️

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Sounds great, but they would find it hard to implement in the UK as the trains never run on time, if they even run at all on occasions.  

Thinking about it though, airline routes are not a lot better, are they 😀

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Yes it sounds great, but I will wait for the European version as I rarely fly in the US.

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10 hours ago, Fielder said:

A lot of the TrainSimWorld 4 stuff in on sale at Steam until the 19th

thanks for the heads up. I just checked but it is only until the 18th. so what would be the lowest cost package for a beginner like me? I would prefer a package with a steam loco and VR support for my HP G2. not the $ 1.400 all DLC inclusive version 🤣

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very nice.

11 hours ago, Fielder said:

I run MSFS2020 and TSW4. And no other games. Both are stellar in VR !

+1 !

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Nice feature to add to the sim I look forward to seeing trains as I depart RW 22L out of ORD and banking left over the Bensenville rail yard. 

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9 hours ago, Fielder said:

Can AI make the trains run on schedule?

I work for a Rail Road and our freight doesn't have a schedule. It's really more of a "We'll fit you in between commuter trains" or "when the track work ahead is completed we'll get yo moving" sort of deal with waits that vary in length.

Whenever I get called to work a freight trip I don't find out what I'm doing until 30 seconds before I start doing it. 😂

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Hmm, not for me. They look far too cartoonish with overly bright colours for my liking. Maybe the photos are doing the product a disservice, but based on the pics, I'll pass.

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I remember old FSX days when at some airports some train traffic was included. Best implementation what I remember was PANC Anchorage (Simwings). It was so beautiful and with sound, totally immersive. I'm gonna buy it for MSFS, when I see a convincing video.

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4 hours ago, Ixoye said:

Yes it sounds great, but I will wait for the European version as I rarely fly in the US.

there wont be one in the UK, the RMT and ASLEF dinosaurs will see to that.

 
 
 
 
 
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26 minutes ago, Nemo said:

Best implementation what I remember was PANC Anchorage (Simwings)

Orbx's EGHI for P3D was good. Mix of animated and static train models helped make a fairly quiet international airport a lot more alive.

 

There are plenty of things in MSFS that look oversaturated or cartoonish. Adding some brightly coloured boxes won't break the immersion for me.

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6 hours ago, turbomax said:

thanks for the heads up. I just checked but it is only until the 18th. so what would be the lowest cost package for a beginner like me? I would prefer a package with a steam loco and VR support for my HP G2. not the $ 1.400 all DLC inclusive version 🤣

All the TSW stuff has VR support. Most of the best packages are dieselor electric. In fact most of their content is. Whereas MSFS has a few activities on the front page, some of the routes in TSW come with 40 ,50, or over a hundred!

Freight service is shunting. A puzzle. How can we rearrange the train's cars (what the Europeans call wagons) into the order we want them in. Because after the train is made up we need to unhook the rear cars at each stop, we can't remove cars from the middle.

Peak Forest Railway add-on. This is a nice vintage steam freight route with 3 classic UK steam engines, freight wagons, and passenger cars (which the Europeans call coaches).

The mountains of Derbyshire (the scenic area that amazed Miss Elizabeth Bennett in Pride and Prejudice). Mostly freight and shunting but also some passengers. Lots of stuff to do and tutorials.

Normally $40 for $16 on sale.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2386171/Train_Sim_World_4_Compatible_Peak_Forest_Railway_Ambergate__Chinley__Buxton_Route_AddOn/

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The base TSW 4 itself that the add-on above needs or it won't run. And this package also includes the most famous steam train in the world the flying Scotsman and the route it runs on today from time to time the East Coast Main Line in the UK. It would be $77 not on sale.

TS4 ($20), The Scottsman ($17), the ECML ($40) all 3 for $10 total on sale.

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/887815/

 

Everything above comes to $27

 

 

 

 

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