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PMDG 777F MSFS 2020 Released Dec 6

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6 minutes ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

But you did get a discount on the 600. The 600 was a lot cheaper then the 800 for the simple reason that it is basically the same plane.

No, the 600 was cheaper because you got one variant as opposed to three for both the 700/800 packages. PMDG also said one version would be extra value - from that it would appear to be the least popular in RW...

 

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  • Sixteen pages of threads...and plenty of nay-sayers. Nothing invokes more emotion here on Avsim than a thread involving either PMDG or FSLabs. I bought the 777F on day one...not my usual MO.

  • I ordered a burger for lunch today and when I ordered a second one, they tried to charge me the full price. I said no thank you and walked out. I'll never go back again after being treated that way.

  • That's a crock of word not allowed  

Am downloading it now. It's a new product, 55 bucks is a bargain IMHO, Thanks so much PMDG, can't wait for the first flight!

 

Jack F. Vogel, Delta Virtual Airlines

 

FYI, 31 new liveries via the Op Center, something you'd have to buy from some vendors!

 

Jack F. Vogel, Delta Virtual Airlines

 

20 minutes ago, jfv said:

55 bucks is a bargain IMHO

🤨 One variant costing almost as much as an entire simulator?… We have different opinions on what a bargain is…

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8 minutes ago, Snuffleupagus said:

🤨 One variant costing almost as much as an entire simulator?… We have different opinions on what a bargain is…

There should have been a discount for people who had already bought the 777. 

 

 

 

So moving on from the price talk, how is the plane itself? 

Eric 

 

 

3 hours ago, jfv said:

ROFL, clearly you are not a software developer, there is no software product ANYWHERE that is ever 100% bug free. By that standard no one would ever release anything 🙂

 

I think I will pass on the "ROF"L for whatever that means. That wasn't my point, really.

Yes, maybe I am being too critical of them. But I would prefer stuff that works that is mostly bug free. WASM bugs were a hot ticket item for several months off/on.

And since I already have their excellent 777ER then the 777F is kind of moot for me and my wallet.

Would it be nice to not basically have a copy of the current plane you already own but a cargo variant? Sure. Would it be nice to have discount on such a plane so similar? Yes. But I'd rather save that money on other developers from now until PMDG can prove me otherwise.

Again, I said it was my opinion. So, I don't really want to ROFL right now.

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25 minutes ago, Snuffleupagus said:

🤨 One variant costing almost as much as an entire simulator?… We have different opinions on what a bargain is…

 

16 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

There should have been a discount for people who had already bought the 777. 

Yup and Yup.

7 minutes ago, B777ER said:

So moving on from the price talk, how is the plane itself? 

Apparently all the livestreamers who got it for free seem to REALLY love it so far.

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Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.

 

41 minutes ago, jfv said:

FYI, 31 new liveries via the Op Center, something you'd have to buy from some vendors!

 

That does sound nice but....Hmmm. Not sure. Fenx and JF often have a lot of liveries as well. Not to mention the thousands of liveries on the .To website.

 

7800+4090+64ram

Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.

 

I ordered a burger for lunch today and when I ordered a second one, they tried to charge me the full price. I said no thank you and walked out. I'll never go back again after being treated that way.

3 hours ago, lenny777 said:

Not to steal the thread but now RJ Professional is compatible with 2024.   I bought this just before 2024 was released with the promise of 2024 upgrade. Done by Just Flight!2020 is off my system. I had all the 737s and the 777. So the release of the freighter is too little too late.

This is the best news I've heard all day!

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Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.

 

19 minutes ago, rjquick said:

I ordered a burger for lunch today and when I ordered a second one, they tried to charge me the full price. I said no thank you and walked out. I'll never go back again after being treated that way.

I love when people pretend like loyalty cards, point schemes and various other tactics to offer discounts to customers to retain repeat-buyers aren’t a thing in their daily lives. 

These things exist in nearly every facet of my daily life, bombarded at me to ensure I don’t use a competing product. It’s not weird to expect something similar in my hobby too. I mean other payware devs do it.

JustFlights offers me a sizeable discount as an owner of the 146 to be used for the RJ series, a fundamentally different aircraft that comes with its own sets of variants. However, I’m somehow disrespectful to expect some kind of discount for a freighter variant of the -200 who’s notable changes are derated engines and slight length difference.

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2 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

I love when people pretend like loyalty cards, point schemes and various other tactics to offer discounts to customers to retain repeat-customers aren’t a thing in their daily lives. 
 

These things exist in nearly every facet of my daily life, bombarded at me to ensure I don’t use a competing product. It’s not weird to expect something similar in my hobby too. I mean other payware devs do it.

True. But let 'em. Most of us already have a ton of their products and if they charge a fee to merge over to 2024 (which the overwhelming majority of devs are not) then they will likely start losing out on customers.

As we've mentioned, we never expected anything like a discount for returning users but meh. I've moved on. Example my favorite developer (hint, not pmdg anylonger) just released one of their extraordinarily amazing planes into the new sim for free.

7800+4090+64ram

Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.

 

I really hope we will have MSFS2020 for along time (2028) as it is really great with AS and REX and all kind of simulations. . 

 

Michael Moe

 

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