2 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I guess it would be like trying to change the name of a major movie just a week before the premier. What about the already existing marketing materials, videos, articles in magazines, the probably already created hard media like the metal boxes of the I-can't-remember-the-name-of-it version.....

Probably tons of stuff that it would be a nightmare to attempt altering at the last second.

I prefer the actual product being correct and late with amendments made to the marketing than the other way round if you ask me. Cross out the 4 and put 5 beside it and post an explanation as to why its delayed on all your media outlets. I think the majority of the target audience would have been more understanding.

 

But im a nobody and this is water under the bridge. All i care about is execution of the fixes and when the feature of downloading assets like aircraft and airports are allowed on my drive. Until then MSFS2020 for me.

23 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Jorg mentioned something interesting right at the start. He was referring to the "launch with ten thousand bugs" of MSFS 2024, and he stated that they would not make the same mistake next time. Maybe those bean counters have been put in their place at last?

As I recall, the launch of 2020 was just as messy... minus the streaming issues with 2024. They did not learn a thing.  🤷‍♂️

• Flight Simulator 98 - released in September 1997
• Flight Simulator 2000 - released in October 1999
• Flight Simulator 2002 - released in October 2001
• Flight Simulator 2004 - released in August 2003

There is no reason why they could not have called it MSFS 2025.

Edited February 6, 20251 yr by Christopher Low

Jorg's always got a reason why their stuff doesn't work, but the point is ...their stuff doesn't work.

 

Edited February 6, 20251 yr by TASCHMANN

54 minutes ago, Pastaiolo said:

In case you need it, since i didn't see any, there is a nice recap here

 

https://fselite.net/content/msfs-dev-live-stream-re-cap-feb-2025-sim-update-1-and-marketplace-for-ms24-revealed-2025-roadmap-and-more/

Don't get back to facts when the usual folks are both bashing the sim and then feeling the need to defend it so others don't miss out on its brilliance which is all FAR more entertaining than facts anyway!!  😉  

59 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

The problem is that they spent money and time already promoting MSFS 2024. To change the title, they would have to undo their original advertising and push out new advertising to get the new message out that it's MSFS 2025 and not MSFS 2024. That could cost them more money.

 

39 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I guess it would be like trying to change the name of a major movie just a week before the premier. What about the already existing marketing materials, videos, articles in magazines, the probably already created hard media like the metal boxes of the I-can't-remember-the-name-of-it version.....

Probably tons of stuff that it would be a nightmare to attempt altering at the last second.

Using a year in the title seems fraught with problems as you both point out. I wonder if they’ve ever considered using something not linked to the year. Like Microsoft Flight Simulator Zeus or Andromeda, Poseidon, Hermes etc.

No copyright protection for Greek Gods. 😉 

It couldn’t evade detection that Meteoblue no longer appeared on the slide with the partners. Is this something new, or has been known for a while?

15 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 

Using a year in the title seems fraught with problems as you both point out. I wonder if they’ve ever considered using something not linked to the year. Like Microsoft Flight Simulator Zeus or Andromeda, Poseidon, Hermes etc.

No copyright protection for Greek Gods. 😉 

Seeing the codename was "Limitless", they could have called it "Microsoft Flight Simulator: Unlimited" (MSFSU). 

8 minutes ago, Mark1616 said:

It couldn’t evade detection that Meteoblue no longer appeared on the slide with the partners. Is this something new, or has been known for a while?

Ooh that is interesting, they were bought out by Windy.com last year so perhaps that has something to do with it. Licenses do run out, change etc over time as well so that might be why 

47 minutes ago, FrankSalo said:

Seeing the codename was "Limitless", they could have called it "Microsoft Flight Simulator: Unlimited" (MSFSU). 

Not particularly memorable. 😉

MSFS XII

There. Give me my six figure marketing salary. Thank you.

Anyone who was disappointed after reading post release reports about msfs2024, could have just not purchased it until the reports looked better. I was not disappointed reading reports about it, and jumped right in.

4 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

and they could have implemented it quite quickly and easily

I didn't know you worked at Asobo.

3 hours ago, Mark1616 said:

It couldn’t evade detection that Meteoblue no longer appeared on the slide with the partners. Is this something new, or has been known for a while?

I wouldn't look too deeply into that, Working Title was also missing from that slide, but we know they're still working with Asobo.

Meteoblue is still credited in the sim itself.

Edited February 7, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

4 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Well there is no reason why it shouldn't be.  If people can do it in a few seconds by following a set of instructions (like yours), then why can't Asobo do it? 
It's not like it takes any difficult programming, it just needs them to set up the sim configuration slightly differently.

Pretty sure this is on Nvidia, not Asobo, unless Asobo told Nvidia not to whitelist 2024 in the Nvidia app due to compatibility issues. Nvidia are the ones dictating what games we can apply DLSS Override for in the Nvidia app, and plenty of people online are giving Nvidia flack for gatekeeping this tech and not giving users the option to decide on using the latest DLLS versions without hacky workarounds.