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NickN now gives advise on tuning P3D

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does he use Orbx ? if he does not then there is no point me reading his "BIBLE",I seem to remember him having a fit when Orbx released their Global add on,ranting and raving on his forum,I also remember a lot more that his little crowd did to rubbish P3d,but it is good to see them come to there sense,s and support P3d

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does he use Orbx ? if he does not then there is no point me reading his "BIBLE",I seem to remember him having a fit when Orbx released their Global add on,ranting and raving on his forum

 

His products compete with Orbx, so I think the answer is 'no'.  His screenies over at the simflight forums are all GEX.

 

BUT I'm very happy that he is onboard with P3D

 

 


does he use Orbx ? if he does not then there is no point me reading his "BIBLE",

 

I would have thought an optimized system would be optimized across the board. I think you mean specific ORBX settings and of course he cant give you that.

ZORAN

 

Your decision to move to P3D would be made, purely because someone has given advice on how to optimize it?

 

There are literally dozens of threads on how to optimize P3D here on Avsim (many by Rob Ainscough).

OP  -  on reflection, apologies if I came across a bit smug with the above - that wasn't my attention. I just believe there are some out there that position themselves as gurus but any advice given rarely applies to every user. It just seemed odd that you'd now make the decision to move to P3D purely based on NickN starting to offer advice on it, when Rob Ainscough, Matt Davies, and others have been offering good optimization advice for some time. Each to their own though and again apologies if my comment came across as tetchy.

 

It is also a valid point (made by others above) that NickN is a developer of payware texture products that compete with Orbx FTX and as such, he's unlikely to be an Orbx user.     ...and Orbx products often need a slightly different approach when the sim is being tweaked.

So..er...where does one actually find this advice?

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So..er...where does one actually find this advice?

 

www.simforums.com

 

NickN doesn't 'do' AVSIM.  :smile:

If you follow NickN's advice on P3D and use his cfg example with any scenery add-on with above average complexity, you will get an OOM within seconds.

 

While setting most scenery sliders to max may work with default scenery when coupled with a 1024 texture resolution, it doesn't with complex add-ons.

 

Cheers,

 

Jerome

I wasn't aware that P3D needed to be optimised. I certainly haven't needed to mess about with the Prepar3d.cfg file.

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So..er...where does one actually find this advice?

 

www.simforums.com

 

NickN doesn't 'do' AVSIM.   :smile:

 

There are rather a lot of threads on there...Which one is it?

 

Dave

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Nick is a smart guy and he knows much more than average simmers.

Why being so rude?

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I used Nick's tweaks religiously back in the day with every install of FSX and it worked for me. However, after the OPTIMIZE_PARTS tweak, my P3D hums along nicely indeed. If NickN can squeeze more juice out of it - respect to that man indeed.

 

Me too but I don't really think P3D needs much tweaking. I have no mods apart from the OPTIMIZE_PARTS tweak like you and all is running very nicely on my old PC with an oldish GPU.

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these are the starting settings......these may not work for BS over the top scenery and planes..

 

BS over the top scenery and planes?? Aren't they the ones that most of us use? :smile:

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Nick's "bible" for FSX had minimal tweaking. His philosophy is that only better hardware improves performance. That thread on Simforums carries that philosophy through for P3d. Almost all of his CFG settings are identical to those posted by a number of individuals here at AVSim, including Rob A..

 

A few bear mentioning. First is he dislikes LM's implementation of HDR. On this point I have to agree with him. Even with all the shader mods that have been proposed, HDR doesn't add much if your weather engine is solid.

 

Second, he uses frames locked at 60 FPS. I assume that he is doing this to activate TBM, a setting which is disabled when running unlocked. Again, I've tried both approaches (60 locked vs. unlocked) and they seem to give identical results for me. Vsync off is sensible, unless one sees screen tearing.

 

Else, he has knocked a few sliders down from their max settings and is suggesting using OPTIMIZE_PARTS. And no NI meddling.

 

I guess what this shows that deep down all "religions" and their "bibles" are the same.

BS over the top scenery and planes?? Aren't they the ones that most of us use? :smile:

I think you might be reading a bit too much into NickN's semi-sarcastic posting style. My take is that he is saying that if one runs complex aircraft combined with a ton of "eye candy" scenery, no fooling with P3d settings is going to make a significant improvement in performance.

I have applied Nick_N's tips and recommendations to my P3D installation more or loss completely. The result was a substantial increase in fps (5 - 7 on average), thereas graphic quality and fps stability was equal or even better than my previous setup. I am going on to test, but so far I am very pleased.

 

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