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FS Labs A320 FSX release set for 18 Aug

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The cost doesn't make me not want to get it. It only makes me wait to see how well it does with its release. By that I mean how many issues and how quickly they are resolved. All new software has issues so I am not going to be shocked by people posting issues. People keep comparing the price to PMDG. If it's equal in depth then it will be worth the cost. I jump right in and purchase PMDG when they are released because of their track record. I haven't owned a FSL product. I hear good things about this but will just take my time buying it. I understand anything over 100$ seems like a lot of money because it is but if you plan on using it then it really isn't. I have purchased add ons in the past that I haven't used. If they were 30$ they weren't worth it because I never use it. I have the AS products and love them. They aren't study sim level and don't claim to be.I have the debit card ready to go but I will just wait and see (for the P3D version that is).


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This is the only hobby where I continually spend money on. I have a couple others that I don't need to spend more money on so I'm good with it. Unfortunately it looks like next year (realistically) before the P3D version of this gem is out so I will have to wait some more months. Maybe the PMDG 744/748 will come out in the meantime.


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Instead, I'll just go out into the desert, and blast thru a $100+ worth of ammo. And it will be all gone. But I'll feel good about it!  And I'm not rich by any means.

 

And see?  I see absolutely no interest in that whatsoever, and I'd much rather spend it on this Bus.  We can all choose, that's great.

 

 

 

These people have no idea of the amount of work, that actually goes, or doesn't go into a project. And time IS money!

 

Absolutely.  Let's assume, for a moment, that Lefteris and his team are in fact four people.  I have no idea by the way, I'm making up the numbers.  They spent six years working on the Bus.  If they sell 15,000 copies of the Bus (an number incredibly low compared to big-names franchises like Call of Duty, which are bugged and don't work right and still sell for $60-70), they'll have made $1.5M.  Wow, big payout, isn't it?  

 

Well, that would be $62,500/year each for the last six, on which they made zero sales of it.  Someone had to pay them on borrowed money, which is costly.  Then those numbers are taxed.  You account for the website, the customer support, the payment processing fees, the expenses, licensing, so on.  This is a niche project, more so than PMDG.  These guys are not getting rich by any means with that product.<

 

People will keep talking.


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Well, that would be $62,500/year each for the last six, on which they made zero sales of it. Someone had to pay them on borrowed money, which is costly. Then those numbers are taxed. You account for the website, the customer support, the payment processing fees, the expenses, licensing, so on. This is a niche project, more so than PMDG. These guys are not getting rich by any means with that product.<

It's actually quite bleak when you break it down that way. Makes me wonder why anyone would go through the pain of spending that long on a project only to be met by a fickle, somewhat hostile reception.

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What I want to complain about is, How come there are no videos and screens shots as yet? We can have a change of conversation and ###### and moan about how wrong they are on this aircraft?

 

http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/7132-a320-x-nda-gag-order-lifted/

 

More to come soon, I'm sure.


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Since this product has not been developed for P3D, I'm moving this to the FSX Forum.

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Folks,

Here is something to think about. It's easy for us to say that something isn't worth the price tag when we had very little or no role to play in producing or developing it. If time was money (as the say), then it's safe to say that none of us could afford the time and effort that was put into this product.

 

No one is saying that you MUST buy this product the moment it comes out. If you can't afford it at the moment, why not save up for it if you can? After the release, it will always be there and you will have a greater appreciation when you pay for something you saved up for. While you save, why not take the time to look at reviews and demonstration videos to see whether you REALLY want this aircraft.

From my own experience, there were many times I've been tempted to purchase an aircraft but wasn't able to for some reason or the other. Over time, after seeing reviews, I realized that I really didn't need the product and it saved me the expense.

 

If we were to look at things another way, if you need a car and someone offers you a car that cost $50,000, you have a choice. You can decide to look for a cheaper car, or save up to buy the car being offered. This case is no different, with the only exception being that each year your car depreciates in value through use...with software this generally isn't the case.

 

For those of you not familiar with the quality of FlightsimLabs, please review their Concorde X product since it is a product unlike any other in its class. I recall that early in the development of the A320 that the developers had set a standard that was even higher than the most demanding of flight simmers and if this is the case, you can expect a product that will match and surpass your expectations.

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2D panels can be installed, without forcid VC - THIS IS GREAT!!!!! 

 

I love my Aerowinx PSX and ELITE 2D panels more than any VC I have used in a flightsim, sorry... that's how it is, for me.... SO, being able to use a sphisticated FSX add-on with native 2d panels and popus is one of the best News I've got regarding this A32X.

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Ok then, why is it that A2A can put out an outstanding product with Accusim for only 50 or 60 bucks? They put just as much work and time into development and even fly and collect details of the real aircraft they are modeling. 

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Ok then, why is it that A2A can put out an outstanding product with Accusim for only 50 or 60 bucks?

 

Really? WOW!

 

I have a suggestion, why not ask A2A to put out a realistic Airbus? I am looking for an A380 to be honest. A Realistic one.. Maybe A2A can pick this one up.  So we can get it for 60 bucks.

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Ok then, why is it that A2A can put out an outstanding product with Accusim for only 50 or 60 bucks? They put just as much work and time into development and even fly and collect details of the real aircraft they are modeling.

 

I'm not a fan of the steep price of the FSLabs A320, but this is really a poor comparison. The electric system of the Bus alone is most likely more complex than an entire A2A aircraft.

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Ok then, why is it that A2A can put out an outstanding product with Accusim for only 50 or 60 bucks? They put just as much work and time into development and even fly and collect details of the real aircraft they are modeling. 

 

By the standards of complexity and detail, you'd be looking at a $500+ A320 in that case.

 

Look up Aerowinx 747.


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   Maybe the question should be, why are people willing to pay $50 -$60 for a, by comparison of depth of systems/fidelity, lower "quality" aircraft? ie, the beauty queens of the sim world, that brag about 4k textures, but offer very little in the way of accurately modeled flight dynamics and systems.

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Really looking forward to learn the Airbus for the first time when it arrives on the P3D platform. I hope the standard is as high as PMDG. 6 years in the making sounds just like it.

 

Hopefully they will succeed.

 

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