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I am guessing MS is making TPM as a requirement to help cut down on Ransomware 

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5 hours ago, DylanM said:

Based on widespread reports, this is turning into an absolute PR nightmare for MS (regardless of their intentions). The "average" user (which many of us I'd hazard aren't) would just as easily look at switching to the Apple ecosystem when forced to look at new hardware, justified or not. 

Exactly. Many millions around the world are just casual non-tech minded users and now they are expected to go into BIOS to check UEFI, Secure Boot & TPM are enabled??

Unless these people have a nerd family member they are gonna get fleeced calling in a techie to come check or just be "whatever" and go to get an Macbook or go to a store and buy a Win11 PC. 

4 minutes ago, ThrottleUp said:

Exactly. Many millions around the world are just casual non-tech minded users and now they are expected to go into BIOS to check UEFI, Secure Boot & TPM are enabled??

Unless these people have a nerd family member they are gonna get fleeced calling in a techie to come check or just be "whatever" and go to get an Macbook or go to a store and buy a Win11 PC. 

The next scam will be, people getting phone calls regarding their PC being fixed so it can run W11, for only $100 ( which is cheaper than a new PC). All they have to do is give the caller their Credit Card number. 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, RaptyrOne said:

Don’t even bother with that app that confirms if your PC is compatible. It is without doubt the worst rubbish MS have ever released. All it has done is create concern and get people fiddling with their BIOS settings and changing UEFI boot settings. They publish one thing and create a tool that says something else. What a joke.

Exactly - and now they've flip-flopped back to saying TPM 1.2 isn't supported, just 2.0

Why Windows 11 is forcing everyone to use TPM chips - The Verge

I don’t understand the point of jumping aboard with latest windows and going through all these headaches.

windows 10 isn’t even running that well that needs things to be fixed. 
 

mike

18 hours ago, vgbaron said:

Is that after installing a TPM module? I have 7700 and enabling PTT did  nothing but I do have a TPM slot on my mobo. It's unclear whether you just need to add the module or also enable it in the BIOS.

 

7700 not supported, regardless of TPM.    

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You don't NEED to upgrade to Windows 11... Windows 10 will be supported until 2025. Are people (here especially) really going to be keeping their old systems for another 4 years? Meanwhile in Apple land, the new macOS Monterey needs a 2015+ computer in most cases. You can't support old hardware forever, especially in our current world of ransomware and exploits.

For those with newer machines that are showing as incompatible, I wouldn't be surprised if manufactures release updates that take care of any BIOS updates and settings for you automatically before Windows 11 goes RTM. Be patient, we're still months from release.

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Beta builds starting to go out to Windows Insiders in the week commencing June 28, 2021

Regular release around November or December this year - I am on windows insider program so may jump on board early 

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5 hours ago, fogboundturtle said:

I am guessing MS is making TPM as a requirement to help cut down on Ransomware 

I hope they’re not going to force Bitlocker in Home. From what I can gather, the TPM requirement is for “future updates.”

4 hours ago, Funky D said:

You don't NEED to upgrade to Windows 11... Windows 10 will be supported until 2025. Are people (here especially) really going to be keeping their old systems for another 4 years

Since I needed external help to finance my current PC, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility. Anyway, I am not in a desperate hurry to upgrade from Windows 10. I have never installed a new OS on an existing PC, so it is hardly a disaster if I do not see Windows 11 any time soon.

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8 hours ago, DylanM said:

Exactly - and now they've flip-flopped back to saying TPM 1.2 isn't supported, just 2.0

Why Windows 11 is forcing everyone to use TPM chips - The Verge

The title of that article and the way it is written is exactly why people will be confused.

It starts by raising an issue that does not exist, explains the consequences of the non-existent issue and right at the end, goes on to explain that there is no issue after all.

Aside from the alarmist nonsense, there is a Catch 22, if your PC is old enough to need a separate TPM chip, it is too old too run Windows 11 because of its CPU. The article doesn't even mention that.

 

I have an Asus Maximus Hero XI motherboard about 3 years old.  Mine failed the update tester with the warning about PTT must be enabled.

I couldn't find anything wading through the BIOS pages, but I finally found the setting by using the search function in the BIOS help.  PTT came up with nothing, but TPM did and took me to a page.

Under TPM it says I was on 'Discrete TPM' (version 2).  The only other option was 'Firmware TPM'.

When I selected that, a scary warning came up that if I lose the 'backup key' (whatever or wherever that is) the PC will not be able to boot into the operating system.

I have left it for now until I investigate further and this whole thing levels out.

I do understand the security benefits of this, and I want to upgrade to Windows 11, but I can see it turning into a headache for some people who are not too good with PC's.

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

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8 hours ago, mikeymike said:

I don’t understand the point of jumping aboard with latest windows and going through all these headaches.

windows 10 isn’t even running that well that needs things to be fixed. 
 

mike

They are fixing W10 it`s W11.

 

Raymond Fry.

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9 hours ago, mikeymike said:

I don’t understand the point of jumping aboard with latest windows and going through all these headaches.

windows 10 isn’t even running that well that needs things to be fixed. 

On the contrary I've found Windows 10 to be a delight to use since I first installed, very rarely run into any problems and there's been no major issues like with previous versions. It runs very well and very smooth for me so therefore I am in no rush to upgrade to 11 ASAP, I'll give it time to mature a bit and grab it (for free apparently) later on.

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One thing that we can be pretty sure off, is that the new system will contain lots of bugs that will keep us busy for a long time.

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