22 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

consistently seen for all the recent/previous SUs, WUs, CUs, AAUs?

Yes.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/extremely-slow-download-speeds-in-content-manager/598421

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/extremely-slow-and-fluctuating-download-speeds/597907

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/are-marketplace-downloads-deliberately-throttled-to-2mbps/613866

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/slow-download-speed-megathread/427731

Though yesterday's were the worst by a long way.

There's nothing to stop the decision-makers in MS Gaming Division from choosing to allocating bandwidth resource to AAA titles and Xbox Cloud Gaming ahead of a title like MSFS, no matter what Jörg thinks and says.

(Literally just now I have a connection lost error pop-up. No issues with my ISP). <--- still having intermittent issues similar to when online services went down last month.

Edit: I really don't want to be curmudgeonly, yet with MSFS2024 seemingly heavily reliant on cloud data streaming, MS Gaming needs to prove to us that they value the franchise by providing a decent bandwidth experience now.

Edited December 6, 20232 yr by F737MAX

10 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

Though yesterday's were the worst by a long way.

It’s been like this in every beta I’ve ever participated in. I’ve seen downloads at 300mbit and then halfway through it drops to 1mbps and stays there until it’s completed. That’s been happening for well over a year. It’s just another thing on a long list of things that gets fobbed off. 

i always said from the beginning, the minute the sales slow down and the peak is gone, microsoft will loose interest,  

They were never going to plough a ton of money into a niche market like flightsim. Id wager they could fix the server issue by next week if they wanted, but that would mean diverting a load of resources - time, money and people into fixing it. 

everything is about money, nothing more, nothing less, and putting time, effort and staff onto something costs money, which I would guess they will not do.

Edited December 6, 20232 yr by fluffyflops

5 hours ago, Farlis said:

Only Microsoft is the airline and Asobo is Gate Gourmet. 😉

makes no odds what way round. at the end of the day the servers have been borked for a long time with no fixes.

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

They already have the big bucks and decent servers, no need to spend anything extra. Releasing a new version of the sim with significant enhancements four years after the initial release (while also keep updating v2020 and backporting some features even) is far from a cash grab, in my opinion. It's actually a cash dump on their part given that they doubled the team size from ~250 to ~500 to also work on v2024.
 

no they are trying to make more money.  its about profit. Theyve seen how much they made from ms2020 and will want to make even more on ms2024, which they probabaly will.  then once the sales have died down a bit, the servers will have the same issue.  Id be happy to bet money on it.,

Today I had the fastest MSFS download ever.  Yesterday not so much and got hung up on the soundpack.

Back in the saddle now.

Edit: Sim runs great on the first flight.  Pretty smooth also.

sp

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by Sky_Pilot071

So much for waiting 1.5 days, getting from 0 - 4Mbps on 1-gig fiber internet. Occasionally bumps up the 400, then back to 0. Now its been downloading the same file fs-devmode-0.1.35 for an hour, I get to 33%, then jumps back to 14% and starts downloading again.

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by desbean

5 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

no they are trying to make more money.  its about profit. Theyve seen how much they made from ms2020 and will want to make even more on ms2024, which they probabaly will.  then once the sales have died down a bit, the servers will have the same issue.  Id be happy to bet money on it.,

Well yes, that's what all businesses want to do don't they, make money .. you said "cash grab" which usually means poorly/hastily made products without much investment/expense, purely to make quick money. If by cash grab you meant that MS's main intent is to make money, then ya just like every other software developer selling software products, or any business selling products, they all want to make money. I'm not buying into your theory about MS scaling up the server-side resources around the introduction of a product and then scaling it back over time until the next version. Also, contrary to popular (but uninformed) belief, the cost to maintain and allocate their AWS cloud infrastructure resources ain't all that for MS, especially compared to paying their developers' salaries (which like I said they've poured a whole lot of cash into in doubling the size of Asobo's team).

So yes, they are definitely going to make a tonne of money on v2024 since it will improve upon v2020 in significant ways, a v2020 which has already been very popular with the flight sim community. Good products that users appreciate usually tend to make money.

I think any issues in server-side infrastructure performance with MSFS is very likely either due to technical issue(s), and/or specific to certain geographies (might explain why some users see issues and some don't), and/or poor planning to ramp up the server resources around busy times like a service update like yesterday's. I certainly don't think it's due to MS intentionally holding back the server resources due to cost or de-prioritization of MSFS.
 

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by lwt1971

6 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

i always said from the beginning, the minute the sales slow down and the peak is gone, microsoft will loose interest,  

They were never going to plough a ton of money into a niche market like flightsim.

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. They're not putting a ton of money into it, but they developed a whole new sim, supported it for 4 years, and are now building another new sim which they will support. Yeah, clearly they've just abandoned it. /s

 

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by eslader

6 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

  Id be happy to bet money on it.,

You need every penny you've earned living in expensive London, stop this nonsense....🤣

 

On another. I've had 3 or 4 flights so far in SU14. I every way I'd say its fantastic. The performance is improved greatly. Supper smooth nearly all the time. Big improvement especially in panning. Also the sky is brilliant. I heard the talk of improved sky colours but its spectacular. Couldn't believe my eye's flying in the PNW at Dusk. Totally awesome!😁

Cant comment on downloading. I started the sim and walked away. Came back a few hours later and it was done.

About the snow coverage improvements, A330 Pilot did a VFR flight on a path he drove through the same day and posted this video.

Around 33' the area should be covered in snow and it's not. Conclusion: there's still work to be done.

 

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by MrFuzzy

40 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

About the snow coverage improvements, A330 Pilot did a VFR flight on a path he drove through the same day and posted this video

In which he did not see any snow at all, so although good clickbait title, the content of the video is completely useless in regard of adressing the question about snow coverage...

21 minutes ago, AnkH said:

In which he did not see any snow at all, so although good clickbait title, the content of the video is completely useless in regard of adressing the question about snow coverage...

Did you even watch it??

He clearly says that the snow coverage is not accurate yet: there was supposed to be snow in the area he flies above at minute 33 and there isn't any.

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by MrFuzzy

I'm not sure I've seen any improved snow on my end either

Edited December 7, 20232 yr by KL Oo