The "premium" edition of the iniBuilds A300 is excellent in 2024. Though what makes it "premium" I cant say. Maybe its "premium" because it actually works?

7 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

The "premium" edition of the iniBuilds A300 is excellent in 2024. Though what makes it "premium" I cant say. Maybe its "premium" because it actually works?

😅

 

1 minute ago, jarmstro said:

Maybe its "premium" because it actually works?

That could very well be the new standard, lol. Then again, define 'works'. You already used the word 'excellent' so I sense some satisfaction that would justify the use of the word 'premium' by the developer. See how easy it becomes to fool us all?

13 minutes ago, Rimshot said:

That could very well be the new standard, lol. Then again, define 'works'. You already used the word 'excellent' so I sense some satisfaction that would justify the use of the word 'premium' by the developer. See how easy it becomes to fool us all?

I note that the non premium poverty edition is "experimental" so who knows?

5 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I note that the non premium poverty edition is "experimental" so who knows?

Good times ahead! 😁

28 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

The "premium" edition of the iniBuilds A300 is excellent in 2024. Though what makes it "premium" I cant say. Maybe its "premium" because it actually works?

Reading what they've actually said about the premium edition is a really good way to find out the differences between "premium" and "compatible": https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/24363-lets-talk-inibuilds-a300-600r-airliner-updates-for-msfs2024-msfs2020/
 

7 minutes ago, tpete61 said:

Seriously...You believe Microsoft isn't aware of the issues???

They have basically said they are on there own forum. They have done a live stream or two stating the same. This is the very same process that we all went through when 202 was released!

I highly doubt MS/Asobo is coming over here to Avsim to check up on how they are doing!

 

Let me remind you of your post

On 12/18/2024 at 2:58 PM, tpete61 said:

Here we go again

Someone ranting the game doesn't work for them.

Plenty of people are happily using 2024.

Not sure what the purpose of your post is other than to stir up more nonsense.

2020 is a dead end, keep using it if you like it.

2024 is the future, if you don't like it there are other choices!!!

So basically people are ranting and why bother posting!

Of Course MS are aware of the issues and would have been well aware of a fair amount before release no doubt, but typical of MS go ahead and release all the same. Regardless of them reading this forum or not we can still voice our opinions on the issues as we see them. You seem intent on silencing the nay Sayers for some reason.

Personally I am enjoying using 2024, but it can be very frustrating experience. Things like aircraft systems not working properly, CTD's, falling through overpass at EDDM and other airports so that you can't reach a runway, having to remove covers before you can use the aircraft etc, to name but a few of the thousands of issues. Most things, small details that they maybe, that did not exist in 2020.

19 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Reading what they've actually said about the premium edition is a really good way to find out the differences between "premium" and "compatible": https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/24363-lets-talk-inibuilds-a300-600r-airliner-updates-for-msfs2024-msfs2020/
 

Ah! Thanks. I did wonder why my premium edition made the sim crash when I tried to exit it. It's a kind of "premium" crash perhaps?😂

Edited December 19, 20241 yr by jarmstro

20 minutes ago, Dusk said:

Personally I am enjoying using 2024, but it can be very frustrating experience. Things like aircraft systems not working properly, CTD's, falling through overpass at EDDM and other airports so that you can't reach a runway, having to remove covers before you can use the aircraft etc, to name but a few of the thousands of issues. Most things, small details that they maybe, that did not exist in 2020.

Yeah, similar. I still use only 2024 as it just is a better experience when it works.. but these annoyances are really annoying. I don't have thousands of issues, but easily a good few dozen that are no fun at all.

However, I remember the journey with MSFS 2020 - I was part of the Tech Alpha and watched the sim get better and better over the years, and it continues to improve. People seem to have forgotten all the horrible issues we had with 2020 - remember the default planes and how garbage they were? We celebrated when the CRJ was released as that was the first plane that was even somewhat decent - and now everyone hates the CRJ 😄

 

So I know that the devs will continue to fix 2024, and hopefully it will really shine in some time, but for sure it needs work.

17 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

That is not a hot take at all that is reality. Did MS hold a gun to the customers head and demanded them to buy MS2024 NO. Did they hyped up a new version of MSFS and said everything would be all good and dandy on release (persuaded them to buy) and the gullible souls fell for it? Absolutely. Like I said no pity from me if people are struggling with the new version of MSFS.

What MS did feels like deception. Do you think they knew the state of this project when they were creating the marketing videos? But they chose to show the product in a way that was not representative of the actual product. So it is my fault for thinking that the material MS was presenting was representative of the actual product I was buying? MS/Asobo knew the state of this project and they released it anyway. And because it took so many hours to install it and get it to load, refunds are not even possible on steam. But according to you, that's our fault? 

I lost all respect for this team after this debacle. Rank amateurs. 

Edited December 19, 20241 yr by RobJC

I have to say, I'm enjoying MSFS 2024 more and more. No bandwith/streaming issues. Sim loads fast. No tedious downloads to worry about. 

I've even managed to cold and dark start the PC-12 NGX and am getting a handle on the Honeywell Avionics. 

 

Regarding bean counters at MS. Microsoft are not short of a few bob. Global domination of many markets is more interesting to them, they have a dubious history there.

Xbox/gamepass are essentially loss leaders to them, getting people IN the door and ON their systems is IMO more important. 

I really cannot see them pushing Asobe into releasing a 'disaster' just to make some quick money, I believe miscommunication has played a part and poor project management by Asobe.

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason it WAS pushed out in November was BECAUSE it was rashly named 2024 when still early in development.

I also wouldn't be surprised if MS wanted it online anyway at launch to stress test their Azure platform. With game software they can get away with user complaints. No way in the world would they roll out any serious corporate backend this way. They'd be sued for business losses. Gamers don't tend to go the class action suit. Also, being tech savvy it's a challenge for many to find solutions themselves.

The product was incomplete at launch and still is. Despite much of it working for many people. Mostly the tech savvy have had success, but gamers want to press PLAY and ummmm PLAY.

NOW. 

Games are supposed to be fun and stress relief.

 

The two members discussing things unrelated to the topic title have had their posts hidden. Stick to the topic title.

51 minutes ago, RobJC said:

What MS did feels like deception...

But not amateurs, deception is part of the game of professional selling techniques at times. 

Its like I said earlier:  Ford acquired Jaguar in 2005 thereabouts and made an X series(?) that was "pretty" (as a Jag is) but underneath was just a Ford.  Did they tell you that? No .. though they did not actually deny it.

Same with MSFS 2024. It looks "pretty" just sitting there, but as soon as you turn the ignition...Ford

I could be wrong on details

1 hour ago, JonathanC said:

However, I remember the journey with MSFS 2020 - I was part of the Tech Alpha and watched the sim get better and better over the years, and it continues to improve. People seem to have forgotten all the horrible issues we had with 2020 - remember the default planes and how garbage they were

They have not forgotten anything. They just prefer to have a more relaxed and enjoyable experience when they have the opportunity.....and a solid and stable MSFS 2020 with lots of good quality addons provides that.