Anyone else experiencing Avsim thread deja-vu? 🙄

59 minutes ago, Paul K said:

Anyone else experiencing Avsim thread deja-vu? 🙄

Nope! I've never seen such a thread!

Actually, I was so puzzled that I decided to keep FS 2024 and Xp12 installed for a whole week !!!

Jokes apart, I feel very happy with my flight simulators. Sometimes (because I am probably, as my pshychologist daughter tells me, a chronic depressive 🤨), I am even affraid of feeling so good, so overwhelmed with the level of detail, quality, smoothness and so on that both MSFS and XP offer me in each session I start, also made possible by some really great addons I am using with both.

I can, nonetheless, understand the OP's mindset. He feels that even more could have been available by now. Maybe he is right after all, and he is perfectly free to feel that way and express his thoughts, but thankfully I feel almost 180º away from that evaluation of the present scenario in desktop flight simulation.

This wasn't the case a year ago, when I was getting a bit disappointed with FS 2020, and Xp12 wasn't showing much progress, but right now, we have been offered updates for both platforms that non only show they're well under active development but also that they have reached a very pleasant state of playability.

Edited April 7, 20251 yr by jcomm

2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Is this a re-release from Bonnie Greazer?

I think it is. I gotta check it out. 😀

I've been a DJ since 1980 and I love remakes of classic sing along songs.

1 minute ago, jcomm said:

Actually, I was so puzzled that I decided to keep FS 2024 and Xp12 installed for a whole week !!!

XP12.2 looking better, but those cockpit textures still look like 2004. I want it to succeed, but I ain't touching it until they update ground textures.

2 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

XP12.2 looking better, but those cockpit textures still look like 2004. I want it to succeed, but I ain't touching it until they update ground textures.

Give it time 😉

They never promised anything. They just said what their plans were, which are subject to change as are all our plans. People want more openness from msobo but that will involve hearing more "we currently are planning this" that could change. Its not like they signed a contract with you to do A B C.

4 pages? I'm impressed!

35 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

XP12.2 looking better, but those cockpit textures still look like 2004. I want it to succeed, but I ain't touching it until they update ground textures.

What is amazing about XP 12 is that they still have that really dumb 15-minute tryout before you have to restart everything. What, changing it to one hour or even  a  one day, is going to result in a catastrophe? Stupid. 

21 hours ago, Noel said:

 I wanted to financially support the product as well.

Never ever undersrtood this. Asobo/Microsoft do not need financial encouragement.

I for one have been flying 2024 for 2 weeks and so far I love it, so much that 2020 is no longer on my drive. In my particular case, it has been incredibly stable and I've been able to extract far more performance and smoothness than I ever could with 2020. Is it perfect, no, but it is perfect for my rig, setting up my peripherals was quite easy too.

I sincerely can't understand why so many have issues with 2024, maybe we are asking too much from a sim that barely has 6 months. From a developer standpoint, I take my hat off to Asobo developers who have created such wonderful simulators, (2020 and 2024) I can honestly say that it has been a dream come true for me.

 

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maybe we are asking too much from a sim that barely has 6 months

 

This is where the consumer stands in 2025, No longer is expecting something to be fully functional at release the norm, now its even asking too much even 6 months after paying good money.

No wonder Devs get away with it.

32 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Never ever undersrtood this. Asobo/Microsoft do not need financial encouragement.

You missed my point:  I wanted to SUPPORT THE SIM.  Of course MS will live on regardless.  Put another way:  if zillions buy the sim, then the sim will continue to be supported.  If zillions don't the odds of shutting it down most def go up, ala MS Flight.

On 4/6/2025 at 10:17 AM, Bobsk8 said:

Nothing, it just works, unlike the beta program that Asobo wants to replace it with. 

2024 works too

And it's not a beta.

Edited April 7, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

22 hours ago, cobalt said:

You are wrong about Seasons (and possibly some other stuff). MSFS2024 has it, with incremental changes visible day-to-day -- an amazing feature!

They're talking about 2020's wishlist in that sentence.

Edited April 7, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

Here's a thought.

If developers want to use customers as a non-paid Alpha/Beta test group, why don't they offer the unfinished and buggy product for free with a built-in trigger that allows  six months or one years' worth of free use/testing with the understanding that development will be ongoing and patches/updates released at regular intervals. A stipulation may be that, as prospective customers use the product, they allow it to "phone home" and generate and share crash reports with the devs as they occur.
After said period has expired the product becomes locked and unusable unless the user agrees to pay the initial suggested cost.

Given the current state of insanity in the world it isn't too far fetched of an idea, is it?