5 hours ago, edu2703 said:

Back in P3D, people were forced to buy a $140 bundle of 2-3 variants, when most of them were only going to fly one. Now that PMDG has given people the opportunity to buy each variant separately, people are still complaining, irrationally demanding that PMDG sell the bundle again for the price of one.

Treating the 200ER as just a ''shortened 300ER'' is a simplistic and erroneous view. The 200ER has three engine variants, a smaller wing and a different landing gear system than the 300ER, which increases the complexity of making custom fuel calculations for each variant and also new aerodynamic calculations based on these differences.

 

 

I agree 100% with the first part.

 

I disagree with the second statement. B 773 and 772 are a common type rating; IRL it takes 8 hours of ground school for differences.  Same situation between 744 and 748. System-wise, they are almost identical; the 300 is slightly longer with a wider wingspan. For them, it's very easy to emulate a few engine types and aerodynamics with minimum effort for adjustments. 

the number of steam users for 2024 jumped way up when this released. Still not as high as 2020, but interesting.

Edited May 3, 20251 yr by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, lenny777 said:

Ridiculous at the price of this not one livery sold with it. I've been trying to install on the flightsim.to site and only managed one.

Bought Inibuilds 350 at comparable price with numerous liveries. Sheesh.

The PMDG 777 comes with 30 different engine and livery configurations:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/URVdnWUAUtEgEFjN6

11 hours ago, B777ER said:

In 20 or 24?

In MSFS 2024. 

13 hours ago, Ron Lefebvre said:

Don't see the liveries included on their site.

Don't suppose they have a Delta liverie.

Yes, they have 2 Delta liveries:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/URVdnWUAUtEgEFjN6

7 hours ago, lenny777 said:

No liveries appearing in the new operation center. 

This is what I see in the OC:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/URVdnWUAUtEgEFjN6

2 hours ago, lenny777 said:

Ridiculous at the price of this not one livery sold with it. I've been trying to install on the flightsim.to site and only managed one.

Bought Inibuilds 350 at comparable price with numerous liveries. Sheesh.

There are free liveries which you can install using the OC3. Why on earth are you limiting yourself to liveries from Flightsim.to???

24 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

The PMDG 777 comes with 30 different engine and livery configurations:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/URVdnWUAUtEgEFjN6

You guys should read the whole thread. This has been resolved.

32 minutes ago, lenny777 said:

You guys should read the whole thread. This has been resolved.

Egg on face.

 

 

Maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but can someone either give their own, or show me a good review of the aircraft?

I'm in one of those lulls where I've been away from flight sims for just long enough where it's gonna take me a second to remember how to ride the bike, as it were. 

 

I'm excited to get back on the bike, but is this plane a good reason to do it? I've been waiting for the PMDG 737 to get to 2024, or the Turbine Duke and neither has materialized yet. And I've seen talk that the inibuilds 777 is plenty good for cheaper? 

 

Any help is appreciated. Thank you! 

48 minutes ago, JughedJones said:

Ive been waiting for the PMDG 737 to get to 2024, or the Turbine Duke and neither has materialized yet. And I've seen talk that the inibuilds 777 is plenty good for cheaper? 

 

Any help is appreciated. Thank you! 

Turbine Duke works in v24. Just don't buy it from the MS Marketplace and you'll have no trouble installing it.

PMDG 737 for v24 is a ways off, sadly.

I can't comment on the iB A350, but IIRC, it's more costly than the PMDG. It also had a pretty rough launch, but they've been putting out a lot of updates and the furor seems to have died down recently.

I'm not an Airbus guy, so the ones included with the sim are good enough for me.

If I was shopping for a Heavy, I'd go PMDG. But I'm biased, based mostly on good experience with their other work & back thru P3D.

I was busy with the Turbine Duke (REALLY nice!), but since this week I'm diving in to the BBS Hercules head first. So far, so good.

Edited May 3, 20251 yr by UrgentSiesta

54 minutes ago, JughedJones said:

 

 

I'm excited to get back on the bike, but is this plane a good reason to do it? I've been waiting for the PMDG 737 to get to 2024, or the Turbine Duke and neither has materialized yet.

I've been flying the Dukes and TBM 850 in 2024 since I moved my folders over hehe...  the dukes are fine with the TBM you just either need to copy the default 2020 TBM 930 over to 2024 or you can alias the sound and just grab those files.

54 minutes ago, JughedJones said:

Maybe this isn't the right place to ask, but can someone either give their own, or show me a good review of the aircraft?

I'm in one of those lulls where I've been away from flight sims for just long enough where it's gonna take me a second to remember how to ride the bike, as it were. 

 

I'm excited to get back on the bike, but is this plane a good reason to do it? I've been waiting for the PMDG 737 to get to 2024, or the Turbine Duke and neither has materialized yet. And I've seen talk that the inibuilds 777 is plenty good for cheaper? 

 

Any help is appreciated. Thank you! 

I have only flown the inibuilds A320 and A321 and though they are fine, the Fenix A320 and A321 are substantially higher fidelity. The PMDG 777 for MSFS 2024 is the best flight model ever for a PC Sim that I have experienced. 

4 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

the number of steam users for 2024 jumped way up when this released. Still not as high as 2020, but interesting.

Do you have something to back that up because steam charts would say otherwise.

https://steamcharts.com/app/2537590

Edited May 3, 20251 yr by Keirtt

7 hours ago, LRBS said:

 

I agree 100% with the first part.

 

I disagree with the second statement. B 773 and 772 are a common type rating; IRL it takes 8 hours of ground school for differences.  Same situation between 744 and 748. System-wise, they are almost identical; the 300 is slightly longer with a wider wingspan. For them, it's very easy to emulate a few engine types and aerodynamics with minimum effort for adjustments. 

100% agree

Some are just egocentric....and want it for the price they are willing to pay or even free.....but not able to reflect that this feeling of just must have everything is a own personal shortcoming.....

Flightsim will not be able to make people happy ....they need to understand that it is a hobby.....and if they can't resist....than that is called addiction.....

It's a huge issue with lots of  human people. 

No one forces to buy and the price PMDG asks....is the price related to the request.....if the price is to high...people resist to buy....and price will go down....if the price is to low....demand goes up....

Simple as that