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PMDG 777-200ER Released

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1 hour ago, Keirtt said:

Do you have something to back that up because steam charts would say otherwise.spacer.png

https://steamcharts.com/app/2537590

Apparently, Steam charts don't count :wink:

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  • V1ROTA7E
    V1ROTA7E

    What an enjoyable experience in 2024. Smooth as butter, everything worked the first load. It's a pretty standard PMDG plane experience, but they did a good job getting it working in 2024. Loaded in, d

  • Man what is going on in these forums the last couple of days? ... Its all so .. unpleasant ... Misinformation abounds and a whole lot of negative energy ... sheesh..  

  • edu2703
    edu2703

    Just did my first flight. Smooth, without any hiccups. The performance is incredible, even better than some default aircraft. Nothing to complain about at the moment. Regarding someone's comments

5 hours ago, lenny777 said:

You guys should read the whole thread. This has been resolved.

Here is the thing. You are getting caught up on a thread and some user says something egregiously incorrect and disparaging. You then hit reply right then and there, instead of continuing reading the rest of the unread posts.

In your case you made mistaken comments because of an inability to use the PMDG OC correctly.

There was no need to reply to my post trying to help you, because even if it doesn’t help you in the moment, it may help others. Other posters were asking about the specific liveries that are available. But if casting negative remarks towards those making an effort trying to help you makes you feel better, then I will do my best to understand.

Your original post sounded indignant and angry as did your reply to me trying to help you.

Flight sim is just a hobby and people get together on this forum to learn and help each other. So no need for comments or replies containing animus. Let's just all be happy and enjoy this fun activitiy.
 

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It looks like there was an issue adding custom liveries to the OC3...has this been resolved?

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16 hours ago, edu2703 said:

Back in P3D, people were forced to buy a $140 bundle of 2-3 variants, when most of them were only going to fly one. Now that PMDG has given people the opportunity to buy each variant separately, people are still complaining, irrationally demanding that PMDG sell the bundle again for the price of one.

Treating the 200ER as just a ''shortened 300ER'' is a simplistic and erroneous view. The 200ER has three engine variants, a smaller wing and a different landing gear system than the 300ER, which increases the complexity of making custom fuel calculations for each variant and also new aerodynamic calculations based on these differences.

The difference between the 200ER and the 300ER is much greater than the difference between the A350-900 and the A350-1000 for example. The A350-1000 is just the stretched A350-900 with an extra pair of wheels on the landing gear and that's it.

And if the maker of an A350-900 wanted to charge full price for a -1000 to anyone who already had the -900 it would be just as egregious as PMDGs behaviour here.

Lets be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR no-one is expecting to get additional variants for free but we DO have a right to ask for the price charged for an additional variants to reflect the additional work that went into that variant.

Instead PMDG has decided to charge customers multiple times for work common across variants and that's unacceptable behaviour to me.

54 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

And if the maker of an A350-900 wanted to charge full price for a -1000 to anyone who already had the -900 it would be just as egregious as PMDGs behaviour here.

Lets be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR no-one is expecting to get additional variants for free but we DO have a right to ask for the price charged for an additional variants to reflect the additional work that went into that variant.

Instead PMDG has decided to charge customers multiple times for work common across variants and that's unacceptable behaviour to me.

You’re making an assumption that the 77W/F was “full price” to begin with.  What if PMDG considered the future release of the 200 series in their overall pricing strategy and spread out those costs over the entire 777 series accordingly?  In other words if the 77W/F were to be their ONLY products the price might very well have been $140 each as the “full price” of those products, and therefore paid a discounted rate originally.

The first t-shirt you buy isn’t going to cost you $10 million because you have to pay for the t-shirt factory.  The plan is to make many more t-thirts and spread out those costs so you are only paying $20 or so, even for that first one.

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OK so PMDG are back in my flight sim albeit at considerable unnecessary cost. Now ASOBO need to lower my blood pressure further by getting FSLTL and GAIS to bloody well work because the default offerings are rubbish!

7 hours ago, alanw2005 said:

The PMDG 777 for MSFS 2024 is the best flight model ever for a PC Sim that I have experienced. 


Ok this is the second time I'm hearing this kind of statement (first was yesterday on reddit https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/670153-pmdg-777-200er-released/page/15/#findComment-5453209, unless that was you 🙂)

Can you please elaborate? I'm particularly interested in the flight dynamics and ground handling improvements so any details you can provide would be helpful. Thanks!

I'm trying to hold out until the 2024 version of the -300ER comes but finding it harder and harder hehe
 

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6 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

I'm trying to hold out until the 2024 version of the -300ER comes but finding it harder and harder hehe

You'll have to wait then. Until they squeeze the last pound of money they can from mugs like me.😀

I'm glad I got it. I'm self aware enough to know that having a new bird in 2024, as well as being able to fly the correct airframe for COA, EAL, and some of the private jets has value to me.

Blackbox711 has a live stream coming up today in a couple of hours
 

 

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3 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Blackbox711 has a live stream coming up today in a couple of hours
 

 

I hope he does better than some of the Youtube livestreams yesterday, where the Youtubers were clueless on how to set up and fly  the 200. 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

I hope he does better than some of the Youtube livestreams yesterday, where the Youtubers were clueless on how to set up and fly  the 200. 


Not sure who these streamers were, I only swear by V1 Simulations, 320 Sim Pilot, Into the Blue, A330 Driver, Blackbox711 and the like. They know what they're doing, are experienced IRL pilots of these heavies, and also long-term simmers experienced on all sim platforms.
 

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I just flew 777-200 for the first time. Absolutely love it. Now Inbuild 350 and PMDG 777-200 my favorite wide body airliners

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7 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I just flew 777-200 for the first time. Absolutely love it. Now Inbuild 350 and PMDG 777-200 my favorite wide body airliners

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Are you using 2020 or 2024 version?

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